If you are still undecided...

[MadameMassiveSalad]

Why?

Easy. There is no party who stands out as being capable, or clear (and trustworthy) about their intentions.

Conservatives
Left the EU. Not only that but with a very bad deal (not that there was a better deal than the one we had as members).
Have had 14 years to implement some of the things they are promising now.
Have managed the economy badly (and then the Trussterfuck).
Have no clear leadership, and no heavy hitters in the wings.

Labour
Have no clear leadership or heavy hitters in the wings.
Starmer is very woolly. I don't really have a clue about who he is, or what he stands for. He is a typical lawyer in that he objects a lot, but doesn't really say what he would do. The manifesto makes a lot of promises, but is light on the detail of how those promises would be delivered.

Lib-Dem
Don't really have a chance of forming a government, but may be a good strategic vote to oust my local Conservative MP.

Reform
Not really worth dignifying with a comment.

I know that leaving the EU has caused economic problems that will take decades to solve, but there is no ownership of it within the Conservative Party. Couple that with the response to the pandemic, which was laughable, and we have a fairly dire situation with no plan from either party.

That's why.

Surely your main problem looking at the above is with the piss poor Conservative record of government. So vote tactically to get them out.

None of the opposition parties quite appeals to me, so I’m not feeling a burning desire towards one party of another.

I’m voting to get our incumbent Tory MP out and up until a few years ago that would have been a clear Lib Dem vote, but our new Labour candidate is doing really well in the canvassing and polling. Which means there feels like a split vote between the two and I don’t know which one to go for.

I’m not a natural Labour voter but they’re going to win this election whatever I do, so it feels a bit… meh

Yes, absolutely. But the question was asking if you are undecided. I know I don't want Conservative, but who then? It isn't a question of choosing the best these days, more like the least worst. Or even the quote from a woman my wife heard on the radio who said something along the lines of "I'm going to vote for x. It will probably still be shit, but at least it will be different."

I've said before on other threads, this election feels like choosing between syphilis or gonorrhoea. Neither is appealing.

@HappiestSleeping isn't it better to vote for a party/manifesto than one person?

Agreed @bozzabollix

I hope you're right @TheHorneSection

Yes. What made you think that wasn't what I was referring to? None of the parties fill me with any confidence. None of their manifestos stand up to any scrutiny.

As I said, the original question is whether I was undecided. The choice is shit, or shit. So I am undecided which shit I wish to vote for.

Ultimately, I will most likely go for a different flavour shit to the one we have currently, but I'm under no illusion that it won't be anything other than just a different flavour of shit.

If you are undecided, then look at your local candidates and vote for the one who is going to work to resolve local issues and best represent the needs of the local constituents. Hopefully they will actually live in the constituency they represent.

This is a national election not a local one. Look at the policies of the parties!

Because as much as I want to change our current government, there is nothing inspiring about the alternative and their leader comes across as a smarmy two faced git.

A vote for the greens and Lib Dems is a vote for trans ideology and a vote for reform is a vote for the racists. So I’m out of options.

I agree. I can't remember a general election when, with less than 1 week to go so many people I know are still saying all options are crap and they can't decide who to vote for, to spoil their vote, or even to not vote at all. My husband is the same. He said the chatter in his office is full of undecided voters.

Then vote tactically?

Vote tactically for what? The party I want to win doesn’t exist.

To vote tactically to change our current government, I’d have to vote for a party who does too much of something I disagree with. I don’t want to lend my support to something I don’t support.

As above; can't vote for a party that won't acknowledge biology and protect women's rights - it's a complete deal breaker for me. Reform - can't vote for racism either.
And that leaves Conservative.
Honestly, I find it almost inconceivable that 3 parties have made it near impossible for half of the population to vote for them - why would you do that?!?

If you honestly cant see that we need the Tories out, then probably best you don't vote and stay at home grumbling 🤷🏻‍♀️

That wasn't the point of the thread though, unless I misunderstand? You asked why people are undecided. If what you actually meant to say was "if you are undecided I can help by stating that we need the Conservatives out" that would have been an entirely different conversation.

Yep. I want the tories out, but can't vote for Labour/lib dem and the greens are an absolute joke. So in my area I'm left with Reform. I won't spoil my ballot (as tempting as it is!) After a huge amount of reading and emailing local candidates I'm frankly depressed by it all. I'll decide on the day I guess.

I'm very undecided. I'm Welsh and have lived under a Labour government since devolution.
I really dislike the way dissenters are completely ignored, called stupid and shouted down. To get the illusion of support for 20mph the health board were basically ordered to put staff up for interviews who'd praise it. Then when people still protested we were told we'd misunderstood the whole policy. Public services are not impartial. As a one party state I think they have a responsibility to be more transparent and accountable to the population.
On pretty much every score Wales is below England, despite having more to spend per head of population thanks to the Barnett formula.
They've really screwed over our farmers and haven't subsidised good practice around sustainability in the same way England has
Don't get me started on their views about women. They really are misogynistic at the top.
I'll still probably vote for them because the other candidates are worse and I can't vote Plaid who's give this shit show more powers

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Decided: spoiling my paper. No one deserves my vote but they deserve to know I got off my arse and spoiled my paper.
I know no one cares but my conscience does.

Stealth Tory bashing thread it seems... a completely useless read.

We live in a democracy. People can vote for whoever they want. This is exactly what I mean about Labour's shitty attitude to dissent

Exactly well said.

This is why a lot of people will vote Labour, but that doesn’t mean that people believe in their policies.

I don’t believe that getting the tories out is so important that we should actively vote for disaster.