Smoking ban

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Why would you not support this?

Underage sales and test sales are in the remit of Trading Standards of Councils, are they not? Who can bring their own prosecutions.

A fucking ridiculous waste of time.

I know, let's ban phones in schools!

Nobhead.

That's why I think we need a total ban. Just stop selling them altogether. Long overdue. Pour millions into helping existing smokers give up if need be.

Councils can do nothing about person A buying cigarettes for person B.

This is a huge distraction from the massive cuts in public health/smoking cessation services.

A waste of time? Smoking causes numerous fatal illnesses. Introducing legislation to ban smoking is literally life saving. I can't think of a better use of time than to save human lives.

Well, I'm sure it'll be massively successful. After all, no one ever uses cannabis.

LOL the Tories can try to distract us as much as they like, they are still not getting MY vote in the next General Election - OR the local ones in 2-3 weeks!

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Everytime there is a restriction, ie sales to u18, advertising bans, increased taxation, ban on smoking indoors the tobacco industry claims that's these restrictions are both ineffective and will increase the black market. All the evidence shows differently, gradually restricting the availability of tobacco has gradually reduced the number of smokers and thus the number of people interested in buying tobacco black market or otherwise. Total instant prohibition would be a disaster but this gradually phrasing out is a great policy ( about the only good one from this government)

Bans don't work. Cannabis, cocaine, heroin etc etc have all been illegal for a long time. People still get them, people still use them.
And dealers cut them with all sorts of awful things which compounds the damage.

The same will happen with cigarettes. And they'll be suddenly extra desirable for those young enough to be impacted by this stupid law.

What will be next? Alcohol? Meat? Sugar? Extreme sports?

I don't support the government removing people's right to choose because where does it end?

Of course I'm not the first. Millions and millions of people have lost loved ones to smoking. Which is why I desperately want it banned.
The disgusting thing is cigarette smoke, and the habit itself.

I'm actually finding your posts extremely upsetting and offensive.

Leaving this thread now.

I stand by everything I have said here.

Ban smoking. Totally. Help smokers massively to give up; and yes, leave them in no doubt that their habit is filthy and repulsive till they do. One more smoking-related death is one too many.

Hiding this thread now, as it's too sensitive a subject for me. Sorry.

Okay...

And how would you make it workable?

Person affected says to person b who is a year older - get me some tobacco. Job done.

Honestly how would you enforce this?

It's just bluster. The government makes SO much revenue on tax from tobacco. It's purely lip service.

Thread was clearly titled. I don't think it warranted a trigger warning.

I think it's great and the only way forward. Lost 3 family members to lung cancer including my dad, who died a horrible, agonising death at the age of 64. Smoking isn't that appealing to younger generations anyway, so I don't think there will be a massive black market. I'd support phasing out vaping too.

I've found your posts extremely upsetting and offensive.

You said you want to shame smokers, which includes all those who have died as a result of the awful products and practices of the tobacco companies.

It's the ultimate victim blaming.

Smoking isn't that appealing to younger generations anyway Unfortunately there have been recent upticks amongst the young.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58317263

I don't think anyone should be 'shamed' about any substance addiction.

And let's face it, a lot of people became addicted to smoking well before they realised the damage it was doing to them. Like many things.

But phasing out tobacco and toxic vape products must start somewhere, just as the smoking bans in workplaces and hospitals did.

I remember being able to smoke in university lectures and on planes, fgs. Unthinkable now.

Teens do stuff. If it's not smoking it'll be something else, maybe much much worse. Either make it all illegal or let adults make their own decisions. Stop infantilising the population.

There will be a decade of mess ups but in 10 years time when you have to be 26 to buy it no 18 year old will be able to directly.
It will be interesting. It's addictive but a very boring drug. So if you go and "score" some on the black market it will be a bit of a disappointment.

I’m a smoker. Shame isn’t helpful.

Yes I support this ban.

I am a former smoker and both my parents died of lung cancer, so I am most definitely against smoking. What bothers me, however, about laws against smoking is this. If we believe that smoking is so dangerous, shouldn't we ban the production? Stop making cigarettes! If it is a poison, why is it being sold?!

In the country I currently live in, government is earning tons of money by taxing cigarettes. To me it looks like they only pretend to make laws and bans around cigarettes for our health and well being. In reality, they only do it so that they can tax it more.

I don’t believe that the government should be able to create a nanny state.

to stop young people starting to smoke they need to crack down on shops selling tobacco to under 18s

The fines are high but the chance of actually getting one is so low it’s not a threat to shopkeepers

Got to say I smell more cannabis around now than I do cigarettes!

Me neither - I don't smoke but I'm not in favour of it at all.