Cameron for next Tory leader?

[DearSilverGirl]

I keep seeing this discussed and wondered what others think. I'm not a Conservative so wouldn't vote for them either way but it's amazing to me that his name is back in the hat.

I suppose positives are he's not a far right nut, he's reasonably statesman-like, he's associated with an era of relative competence and (unlike a lot of them) he won't lose his seat at the next election because he doesn't have one. Also people have heard of him, which doesn't sound much but it's amazing how low recognition is for a lot of people, even among party members.

But he must be very unpopular with Brexiteers, he's unpopular with Remainers (although are there any left in the Tories?) and can they really get away with a leader on the HoL in 2024?

David Cameron is in the House of Lords.

Whilst I understand he is far better than the current leadership, there is no way he would seek election in any safe seat left after the lost general election.

Though it is like saying better to tread in dog poo than a cow pat.

Yes, so I mentioned. But there's nothing to stop him from being Tory leader in the Lords.

An unelected PM ?

A PM (or leader of the opposition) in the lords wasn't acceptable 60 years ago, hence Alec Douglas-Home renouncing the peerage and being found a safe seat after Macmillan fell.

I don't know whether a Life Peer like Cameron can renounce but the safe seat bit would be. to say the least, challenging.

He wouldn't be PM, he would be leader of the opposition.

Conservative and Union party doesn't allow it

"The Conservative Party constitution says that the leader of the party "shall be drawn from those elected to Parliament".

It also wouldn't be possible for him to participate in PMQ or deliver statements etc.

Also The Cabinet Manual states that the prime minister “always sits in the House of Commons.”

Well, only if the Tories lose the next election - and that is a pretty big if right now.

Eh!!!

You think the Conservative and Unionist party will win? @SerendipityJane

That is interesting, thank you. I wonder why it's being discussed so much. I suppose they could change the constitution.

😂

That would kill of the Tories nicely, you should suggest it!
They're more into religion these days so it'll be some religious nutter in their hot seat next. Not Catholic though (poor old snoozy Mogg!) good old CoE, but only the right sort, you know the ones who all go to that same church...not those woke ones.

Is there any reason why they shouldn't ?

Maybe because so many of the electorate don't want to vote for them?

Is there any reason why you think they could win?

There are new reasons every day... 🤳🍆

@SerendipityJane

I think they’ll probably have to recycle a past PM or leader as they’re running out of options

If Cameron becomes PM that will mean that since September 2022. under the Tories, we've had three Prime Ministers -

Liz Truss - who wasn't voted in as PM
Rishi Sunak - who wasn't voted in a PM
David Cameron - who wasn't even voted in as an MP.

Also, during that time we've had three Chancellors of the Exchequer.

These have included the shortest serving PM and the shortest serving Chancellor (exluding a previous chancellor who died in office).

Thank goodness we have the strong and stable Tories in power otherwise things might be a right embarrassing shambles.

But ...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1885460/conservatives-desborough-byelection-win

That's a Council election in a Tory heartland. Completely irrelevant with regard to a UK-wide General Election.

The article is pretty damning about the Tory's chances in the next election.

It’s technically possible, but practically difficult. He could be parachuted into a safe seat though.

It’s a very small if right now. Labour are on track for a bigger land slide than Tony Blair had when he became PM.

As long as it's not fucking Boris Johnson, I don't really care. Honestly, what is the deal with politics these days? It's just a constant rotation of the same sodding morons who refuse to go away. Are there no energetic, thrusting, young leaders rising through the ranks?
Don't even get me started on the US presidential elections - they've REALLY got problems..

Sorry but Cameron is an absolute idiot and responsible for the mess we have now. I can remember his big society and austerity....decades of decline to look forward to.

Even Boris was brave enough to accept that austerity caused more harm than it solved

Not even an actual constituency. And the one they're in is predicted to comfortably switch to labour in the GE.