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Do the Tories really support families?

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Fahbeep · 26/10/2023 09:50

The Tories claim to support families, yet have spent the last 13 years making life harder for families. I don't get it, can someone who votes Tory tell me how impoverishing a big chunk of our society, wrecking schools and the NHS, and taxing the bejesus out of everyone for such poor public services helps families? Yes, a loaded question, but someone needs to explain it to me as I don't get it.

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dubsie · 02/12/2023 07:47

We all pay for services we don't use, that's life and we should expect that. I don't use air craft carriers but we all pay for them.

You view is shortsighted because without a safety net the results of poverty blight the entire country and actually costs you more. It costs more because poverty reduces our educational standards, it blights communities with poor health and reduces investment.

Hard work should pay and that's the whole point....hard work isn't paying for a lot of people and the harder they work the poorer they are getting.

GeneCity · 02/12/2023 08:21

dubsie · 02/12/2023 07:39

It's a Tory play book, divide and conquer. They always pick on the group unable to defend themselves...the immigrants, the benefits scroungers all being paid for by hard working families...

The truth is actually the complete opposite, middle class families live off the hard work of low paid hard working benefit claiming poorly paid service staff. This group of workers are paid very little but put in the hours and the graft

Without millions working on poverty wages those in the middle would be considerably poorer.

I'm baffled by you mentioning divide and conquer, then pointing the finger of blame at middle class families.

What about tax breaks for the Tories' rich friends, and massive corporations not paying fair tax?

travellinglighter · 02/12/2023 09:03

Essentially it’s tories sticking to the mantra of small government, austerity and trickledown economics. The idea is that you cut government spending and support the wealthy with tax cuts so that they use the money to invest in industry and generate jobs so that increases employment and increases tax revenue.

The reality is that they strangle public services to give billionaires tax cuts who then squirrel the money away in tax havens or worse, invest it in other countries who give them tax advantages just for rocking up with millions of pounds worth of investment.

Austerity doesn’t work. There is no harm in a government cutting waste in hard times but the money they save through efficiencies needs to be reinvested in infrastructure, industry or education. Think Roosevelt’s new deal. It dragged the American economy out of the Great Depression by building bridges, schools, libraries and housing.

Suddenly removing billions of pounds from an economy ny making savage cuts just makes the economy smaller and smaller economies make people tighten their belts and shrinks the economy again.

dubsie · 02/12/2023 09:10

I'm not blaming the middle class but the reality is some of the worst paid people serve to the relatively well off. I'm sure a lot of middle income houseolds would be horrified by the living conditions of those people delivering parcels, serving them in restaurants.....it's all hidden and kept that way for good reason.

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 12:11

You view is shortsighted because without a safety net the results of poverty blight the entire country and actually costs you more. It costs more because poverty reduces our educational standards, it blights communities with poor health and reduces investment

don’t forget crime. People with little or nothing to lose care very little for laws that largely only work if the majority of the population buy into them. The veil of civility is really quite thin.

sixteenfurryfeet · 02/12/2023 12:14

Do the Tories support families?

Of course they don't.

HerbalTeaAndCake · 03/01/2024 22:29

No.

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