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Has Keir Starmer joined the Tory party? R4 interview

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Blip · 02/05/2023 08:24

Keir interview this morning on radio 4
No denationalisation
Student tuition fees to stay
Tax rises on the rich are not the answer

Do we have a two party system now where both parties are firmly on the Right?

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FourTeaFallOut · 03/05/2023 08:29

MissyB1 · 03/05/2023 08:23

Come on that’s not difficult - how about what we have now! Personally for me nothing is worse than this shower of shit.

The last coalition ate the lib dems. They went from being an alternative voice to hold the government to account to an irrelevance with no integrity.

MissyB1 · 03/05/2023 08:33

FourTeaFallOut · 03/05/2023 08:29

The last coalition ate the lib dems. They went from being an alternative voice to hold the government to account to an irrelevance with no integrity.

That’s why I want more than two parties in any coalition.

Noicant · 03/05/2023 08:51

I think he has to be pragmatic, it’s reasonable for him not to make promises he can’t keep. I wouldn’t vote him for other reasons but I think he’s being quite sensible to be honest.

SunnyEgg · 03/05/2023 09:16

FourTeaFallOut · 03/05/2023 08:29

The last coalition ate the lib dems. They went from being an alternative voice to hold the government to account to an irrelevance with no integrity.

I agree although weirdly the SNP / Green situation shows they are more demanding on so this gender stuff or we’ll walk. So it can throw up more extreme outcomes out of step with electorate

Probably because the Lib Dems went for AV referendum, as for future success of their party it makes most sense, which they lost

anyolddinosaur · 05/05/2023 10:12

If Starmer wants the ability to change anything he has to be elected. He is not going down the Corbyn route of promising the moon with made up costings to claim it was affordable. If he wants to win an election he needs to show a (note the small c) conservative country that he can make less of a mess of the economy than the tories.

Too many Labour activists want to be in permanent opposition. You need to stop living in your fantasy world.

He has lost a lot of female Labour voters by pandering to the mysogynistic trans activists, he needs to be sensible on other issues.

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