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Angela Raynor

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randombear · 27/09/2021 11:13

I've checked if there's already a thread and couldn't find one...

If you're a Labour voter how do you feel about AR's comments this weekend (calling Johnson scum etc)?

I find her exasperating. I can't stand this gov or Boris by the way, but her manner of speaking is so bloody unprofessional! She thinks two wrongs make a right and that just because he's said something terrible things it gives her the right to do the same. I'm trying to teach my toddler not to take this approach in life!

Poor Kier Starmer - the Labour Party is so unwieldy he is unable to call her out on her inappropriate behaviour as the Corbynistas will come out fighting, so all he can do is distance himself from her comments. She's handed Boris so much ammunition for PMQ's.

Other sensible shadow cabinet are doing the same whilst privately despairing of her and rolling their eyes.

She is too aggressive in her tone and constantly sounds like she's picking a fight. You don't see Harriet Harman speaking in that way, even when she's incredibly passionate about an injustice.

AR is making Labour a laughing stock and she has no place on the front bench in my opinion. It's a shame as I really respect how far she's come in terms of overcoming her dysfunctional upbringing which she's talked about. But she is not a good role model if she thinks shouting and being aggressive is a professional and appropriate way to debate.

What do others think?

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EdgeOfACoin · 02/10/2021 07:31

I'm not a Labour voter and am no fan of AR. However, I have seen traditional working class voters get quite annoyed by her 'street' talk - as if working class people are not capable of expressing themselves articulately.

Fifteentoes · 02/10/2021 23:11

Your apprehension of internal Labour politics is inaccurate. "The Corbynistas" (those that are still around) are no fans of AR. And if they were it would be a reason FOR Starmer to sack her, as his entire project at the moment is focused on distancing himself from them and driving them out of the party.

DesdemonaDryEyes · 02/10/2021 23:15

I think she’s great. Crack on Ange.

phaginarelange · 02/10/2021 23:17

I live very close to her constituency and most of the people I know think she's a knob

Childrenofthestones · 18/10/2021 16:21

After Scumgate she and the labour leadership must have given a sigh of relief that it was a Islamist terror attack and not some leftwing loon that could have been said to have been inspired by her words.
I doubt her career would have survived it.
One good thing comes from poor David Ames's death, I very much doubt we will ever hear Tory Scum again from a labour MP, let alone AR.

Stripyhoglets1 · 18/10/2021 16:33

I agree with her feelings but as an MP you just don't say that sort of thing. I can't stand how she operates and it's now it's given the tories and the press the ammunition to say that the left is to blame for the threats and vitriol directed at MPS. Ignoring their own culpability in turning this country into a divided and bitter nation.

KrispyKale · 18/10/2021 16:40

Labour voter or abstainer here.
She's a disgrace. Sorry.

Acheyknees · 18/10/2021 16:45

Hardly statesmanlike is it? I would cringe if she had to represent the UK on the world stage if Labour ever got into power. The whole Labour front bench is mediocre at best. We need more like Straw, Brown, Harman and Miliband.

ejhhhhh · 27/10/2021 19:12

I think what the Labour Party needs is a grown up, female leader, but AR isn't leadership material. I'd be much more impressed with a front bench including Harriet Harman and Yvette Cooper (who I saw speeking very eloquently about the recent night club needle spiking incidents). Kier Starmer isn't the "grown up" leader I was hoping for, he doesn't appear to stand for anything and he's far to swayed by populist opinion. Someone who isn't populist, who can speak passionately about issues with air air of competence is greatly needed. AR doesn't exude competence, she's just another Johnson but of a different colour.

KrispyKale · 27/10/2021 19:29

I'm coming round to Yvette Cooper.

MargosKaftan · 27/10/2021 19:52

I read somewhere she was Keir's John Prescott - the "no nonsense" straight talking- sometimes embarrassingly so - person who countered his smooth, managerial style that might put off more traditional labour voters. It makes sense, she's going to appeal to a very different demographic to him and definitely some of these "gaffs" will hit home with people who agree with her.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2021 19:21

Statement and apology from Angela Rayner

A statement on recent events: t.co/XJ92jWP9rI t.co/bvTaQDnUWa

(twitter and Facebook)

KrispyKale · 28/10/2021 21:37

That's well put.

omfgimgettingmarried · 28/10/2021 21:45

Poor woman, away on bereavement leave, victim of harassment, and her own party slagging her off Sad

And maybe she shouldn't have said it but she's not wrong that Johnson is scum.

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