Why are they called the tories when they are conservatives not conservatories?

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Why are they called the tories when they are conservatives not conservatories?

The term originated from the civil war, and for a long time the 2 main political parties were Whigs and Tories.

The modern Conservative Party was formed from the old Tory party (think Whigs and Tories from history). Just kept the old name as a nickname/colloquialism.

I've always wondered this. Thank you!

OTTOMH, Tory started out as an insult, it meant something like outlaw.

Wikipedia tells it better than I could:

The word Tory derives from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe; modern Irish tóraí; modern Scottish Gaelic Tòraidh: outlaw, robber or brigand, from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit", since outlaws were "pursued men".[5][6] The term was initially applied in Ireland to the isolated bands of guerrillas resisting Oliver Cromwell's nine-month 1649–1650 campaign in Ireland, who were allied with Royalists through treaty with the Parliament of Confederate Ireland, signed at Kilkenny in January 1649;[7] and later to dispossessed Catholics in Ulster following the Restoration.[8] It was also used to refer to a Rapparee and later applied to Confederates or Cavaliers in arms.[9] The term was thus originally a term of abuse, "an Irish rebel", before being adopted as a political label in the same way as "Whig".

Towards the end of Charles II's reign (1660–1685) there was some debate about whether or not his brother, James, Duke of York, should be allowed to succeed to the throne. "Whigs", originally a reference to Scottish cattle-drovers (stereotypically radical anti-Catholic Covenanters), was the abusive term directed at those who wanted to exclude James on the grounds that he was a Roman Catholic. Those who were not prepared to exclude James were labelled "Abhorrers" and later "Tories". Titus Oates applied the term Tory, which then signified an Irish robber, to those who would not believe in his Popish Plot and the name gradually became extended to all who were supposed to have sympathy with the Catholic Duke of York.[10]

Because Liberals came up with it as an abusive term in the 19th century, Socialists adopted it in the 20th century and it marks the time one of them had an original idea.

CDtaylornats you are historically ignorant as well as stirring controversy.

Here is a good summary:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30899534

I quote from that article:

"The political term "Tory" dates back to the "Exclusion Crisis" which took place between 1679 and 1681 during the reign of Charles II.
Two political factions had emerged in Parliament: those who wanted to exclude Charles' brother James, the Duke of York, from succeeding the king because he was a Roman Catholic (the Whigs) and those who supported his rights to the throne (the Tories). The Tory campaign prevailed and James became the Stuart king James II.
Both terms were originally pejorative:- Whig came from an old word for yokel or "country bumpkin"; Tory is derived from the Irish Gaelic word tóraidhe, meaning outlaw.
"Simplistically you could say Tories were Cavaliers and Whigs were Roundheads," explains Dr David Seawright from Leeds University, a Conservative Party expert.
Although Tories began by supporting a Catholic heir's rights to succession, they went on to be associated with Anglicanism as well as strong monarchist and patriotic sympathies."

and some more:

"The term "Conservative" first started to be used widely in the 1830s under the leadership of Sir Robert Peel. He re-interpreted the key elements of the old Tory tradition, effectively modernising the party under the banner of support for social reform and free trade.
While the Tory party under the Duke of Wellington had been strongly opposed to the Reform Bill which extended voting rights, Peel accepted it, declaring his support in the Tamworth Manifesto of 1834.
Despite the adoption of a new name, "Tory" endured and the two terms became interchangeable, with the older name appearing in official publications such as Lord Hailsham's "Toryism and Tomorrow" lecture of 1957.
In the early 20th century, both terms were briefly eclipsed by a new name, "Unionist", to reflect the party's resistance to Irish Home Rule. In the latter part of the century, "Conservative" emerged as the official name."

My favourite Tory is Benjamin Disraeli, the founder of "One nation tory" or "Tory Democracy".

Socialists adopted it in the 20th century and it marks the time one of them had an original idea.

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