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Parliament on holiday when we have a crisis.

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HappydaysArehere · 12/04/2019 09:54

Perhaps this should be under the AIBU thread but anyway ....We only have a short extension in which to see this Brexit mess sorted out. If you deduct the Easter and then the summer recess periods what have we left? What we do have is plenty of time for this country to seem inefficient, ridiculous and not worthy of trade deals as the in fighting for power goes on.

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TheABC · 12/04/2019 09:57

Right now, we are in a deadlock with no obvious winner or way forward. Every MP has been run ragged on this issue and a space to rest and reflect may help actually get a result. I personally want a break from it, just as a bystander!

PalindromicUser · 12/04/2019 09:57

They are all absolutely exhausted. They have been sitting debating etc for ages as well as all their constituency and ministerial/committee work.

Do you make your best decisions when you’re sleep deprived with with stacking up and you haven’t seen your family in weeks?

HappydaysArehere · 12/04/2019 11:35

Suppose not. As I wrote the above I thought along the same lines but what about the summer recess? Surely, that should be shortened this is a national crises.

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FunnyTinge · 12/04/2019 12:04

Let them go home, speak to their local members and constituents. They may come back with a different set of objectives that mean subsequent votes go differently than they would now...enough leavers and remainers saying 'just make it stop' might convince a few more to back 'revoke' Grin.

myrtleWilson · 12/04/2019 12:07

But we're at deadlock OP so MP's hanging around in Westminster isn't actually moving things forward. I'm sure if Labour/Conservatives reached a breakthrough and the government felt it was important they could recall MP's during Easter and similarly summer recess is still some way away - who knows where we'll be then...

I agree that they all need a break, to step back and away from Westminster and be in a better position (hopefully) to move forward.

meditrina · 12/04/2019 12:12

If there is real need, sitting dates can be altered, or Parliament recalled if there us a specific time-sensitive matter.

So yes, what you are asking for can happen.

Whether it is needed is another matter. If there are any (bigger than usual) upsets between now and the date for indicating the legal start of the Euro elections, then I wouid expect a recall or drastically shortened Easter break

If we get through that, then carry on with dates as currently set out. Decisions on whether to shorten the summer recess, reconvening a bit earlier in the autumn, need not taken yet

HoustonBess · 12/04/2019 12:17

I'm hoping the more delay, the more likely a remain outcome is.

HappydaysArehere · 12/04/2019 18:59

Well HoustonBess that would be a relief but can’t see that happening unless another referendum is voted for. I’m afraid that time would run out for even that. Revoking Article 50 would be considered undemocratic and cause trouble so a referendum in the light of reality would be the only way ahead I can see. Can you see that happening? My real fear is that we leave without a deal causing hardship here and in Europe and ruining any chance of a good relationship with our closest neighbours in Europe. However, perhaps my even greater fear is having Johnson as PM as we don’t need a self seeking, less than able idiot at the helm or we will be as badly off as that poor woman who is still in jail because he couldn’t understand his brief as a Foreign Secretary.

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HoustonBess · 12/04/2019 20:57

Well @HappydaysArehere - it might turn out that one of the Trump investigations in the US turns up something about Brexit which means UK politicians can't brush the corrupt money in the referendum under the carpet any more. There's been lots on Nigel Farage possibly handing a data drive to wikileaks just before the emails were released, and dodgy Russian money all over the place.

I also think politicians won't allow no deal, and the deal on offer is so obviously worse than EU membership that somehow the penny will drop and people will want to revoke or have another referendum to finish the bloody thing. Either no deal or passing the WA mean years and years more of this as a trade deal is negotiated.

Ultimately Brexit might have been deliverable with a plan and a realistic time scale for preparing the economy. Not just triggering A50 straight off and hoping for the best.

As things stand Brexiters would be happy to find a way to cancel the whole thing and go back to sniping on the sidelines and blaming the EU for everything.

HappydaysArehere · 13/04/2019 09:29

Thank you**@HoustonBess** that is very interesting. Of course I remember hearing something about Nigel Farage being a “person of interest” in an investigation that was being undertaken but don’t recall the details. You are absolutely right andI I agree with everything you have said. Of course triggering A50 was being called for incessantly after the referendum and pressure on May was huge.I think the EU were hoping for a longer extension in the hope that Brexit never happens but Macron wanted to jump up and down to play the big man in Europe in the hope of retrieving some of his loss of popularity in France. I only hope if the corruption charges are substantiated that the voters in this country will be able to see that they have been well and truly “had”.As for Farage he will high tail it out of this country and good riddance.

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