Scotland's new income tax!

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Was this expected? What the general feeling about this?

Fairfax your dh would not be “written off” by the state system if he were a child now. Private schools have much more to lose by accepting students who are potentially not going to get the highest results. State schools all have whole learning support departments and regular staff training in various types of asn.

There is a very high marginal tax rate, (above the nominal rate) at a certain point because the personal allowance is withdrawn.

Just googled the higher rate tax with no personal allowance and read a FT piece which reports it's the highest tax rate in Europe and that's before Scotland goes it alone.

Not saying high earners shouldn't contribute more but want to show some perspective.

Nyx, by the time you pay national insurance (which is just another tax) you are above 50%

Well, yes. Everyone pays indirect taxes too. Again though, the higher earners pay more which is only fair surely. Plus, the SNP have no sway over those indirect taxes, just the income tax.

It's not an indirect tax, it's a direct tax on your earnings. You keep saying fair... What level of tax becomes unfair.... They already pay more.

I don't know what level of tax becomes unfair, Lichtie, sorry.

There is a point when it becomes ineffective though and that's when tax take doesn't increase.

That might occur because there's not enough incentive to earn more or there's no incentive to expand and create a job for someone else or you are able to up and take your earning power to another tax regime.

Hereitis he still had to sit (and pass) the entry exam.* He might be dyslexic but he's not stupid. His own DSis considers him the smarter one.*

Struggling to make sense of your post, and it doesn’t really answer mine does it? I have a dyslexic child of my own, no need for the snark.

Hereitis my public sector pay was unfrozen a couple of years ago, and the latest proposal is for over 5%. Many of my friends in the private sector have also had no rises in the last five years, and in many cases the public sector is already paid at a higher rate than equivalent private sector jobs, especially when you factor in DB pensions and flexible working.

Calyx surely you must have moved up your banding which gives you a year on year pay rise? Really struggling to see how a single person earning over £30k and feeling underpaid needs "help with Christmas". Cut your cloth; it's what everyone in the private sector has to do (I haven't always worked in public sector).

Hereitis the big I am referring to.**

"Private schools have much more to lose by accepting students who are potentially not going to get the highest results"

And the state system is still writing off kids.* Parents are still battling to get adequate support.*

Nope, not getting it. Of course pupils with extra barriers to overcome are less likely to get the top results. Also not all asn are dyslexia, would the private schools feel the same about children with ADHD, ASD, multiple impairments, FAS etc? I’m not saying state schools get everything perfect but the idea that private schools are better equipped to support students with additional needs is wrong.
Please stop with all the ** though!!

Hereitis it seems to be an issue with the app.**
I'm not doing it deliberately but if I bold any part of a post it the.* Does it at random.*

Username. You don't have any reason to know what comes off my wage and I am not going to tell you. I can say you are being cheeky and hurtful and I don't feel like justifying myself to you. Fuck off.

No, I'm being realistic in that you are earning over £30k and complaining it's not enough. Whatever comes off your wage is your choice; if you've made poor choices, then they were your choice. Don't mean to be hurtful, just realistic. I've made many bad choices in my life, and paid for them, both physically and financially.

I'll just say to Band 5 district nurses with families to 'cut their cloth' from you then.

My point about the tax rise money going to fund wage rises for NHS being a good thing still stands.

Don't feel you need to come back on for another swipe at me please. Don't know of you saw my request for you to fuck off?

I'd agree, if it were ring fenced for NHS, but I've not seen any guarantee of that. More likely, as PPs have commented, cardboard boxes nobody uses and road signs nobody can read 😢

User, calyx didn't complain about her own wage - don't know why you're attacking her, she said she was coping. You're being very rude, making assumptions and telling her to'cut her cloth'. She did her best to answer your question about public service wages.

Sorry, effing off now, as requested. Great people skills, btw - I thought that the whole point of a conversation was to get different points of view, rather than just send expletives to people who don't agree with you. We all have problems, and when you come on a public forum complaining about your lot, expect sympathy, criticism and opinion; if you don't want those, then keep your opinions to yourself.

I was complaining about my colleagues' lot.

I told you to fuck off because you're on and on about me personally not because I don't like your opinion. It's your rudeness I don't appreciate.

Isn't the starting salary £21k plus? Why are they having to use food banks if the living wage is £13k.

Lichfield I'm guessing having to actually live on the living wage only applies to private sector workers!