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Uk media left bias

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Usernameaintit · 03/11/2017 08:46

Does anyone think the media in uk is all far too much to the left? No documentries on any scandles or bad politics from hillery or obama but channel4 especially non stop anti trump documentries. The media telling half the voting population they were wrong for voting brexit? Brexiteers know about immigration and nothing else it would appear? Can anyone name any right wing satire or programme other then top gear? I feel i live in a country where to have leftiest views is ‘safe’ to have right wing views and you are held with contempt. I would bend over backwards to help somebody vote for a party i cant stand. But i dont feel many on the left would do the same for us of a sometimes right wing persuasion. Any thoughts?

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Thesqueezermustghost · 03/11/2017 10:01

I don't think Hilary or Obama are left - liberals maybe. And, no.

silenceisadistantmemory · 03/11/2017 10:02

So it’s basically the media treatment if Trump you’re unhappy with?

The ‘Grab em by the pussy’ guy? Really?

silenceisadistantmemory · 03/11/2017 10:03

America doesn’t really have a left in the way that we understand it

DryIce · 03/11/2017 10:05

Are you serious? I am not from the UK and the media here seems extremely right wing biased to me.

In fact, it seems to be generally accepted

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-media-is-the-most-right-wing-in-europe-yougov-finds-a6859266.html

Usernameaintit · 03/11/2017 10:06

id be curious to see purely for a change any right wing comic coming up, who mocks labour more then tory for e.g
Theres no young up n coming on tv and i just wonder why
I dont buy that right wing comedy has to be more offensive then left wing comedy n therefor should not be aired

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silenceisadistantmemory · 03/11/2017 10:08

What is right wing comedy?

CountessDracula · 03/11/2017 10:13

Jacob Rees-Mogg?
He can't be real, I always think he is an Ali G type hoax character - maybe I'm right?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 03/11/2017 10:15

What is right wing comedy?

Right wing physical comedy - burning £20's in the face of homeless people

Right wing comedian - Isnt it funny how people cant afford to live anymore, I mean who cares about the poor and disabled, am I right? Hmm

cant see the funny side of it tbh

Usernameaintit · 03/11/2017 10:16

Lol im not a right wing comic although im sure you think different
I guess it could be mocking liberal economics, failed comunist and socialist state dictators
I imagine it would be broad as leftist comedy can be- but it would be different and a breath of fresh and less predictable.
Am i annoyed with the anti trump documentries? Yes. Because im his biggest fan? No. Because its getting very boring and predictable now. Maybe a documentry could be done on clintons emails, weinsteins relationship n gifts to the obamas, giving putin the nodd to bomb syria and judging a democrate in a dim light for a change. So do i hate obama? No- i just like to see the media scrutinise the other side abit more some time. Just an opnion. Thank you for the polls btw, insightful and what im looking for on here. :)

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SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 03/11/2017 10:22

Maybe people on the left are just funnier and cleverer?

silenceisadistantmemory · 03/11/2017 10:27

I’m not sure that jokes about the Soviet Union would be particularly funny- given the amount of people who died in the gulag and then suffered after the fall of communism. Nor would Cuba be a particular funny subject- too much blood spilt there too.

Right wing comedy usually consists of MIL jokes and jokes about foreigners.

Just not funny anymore.

As for laughing at left wing economics, what would you mock? Free education and healthcare? Regulation of the banks? Government investment in infrastructure?

lessworriedaboutthecat · 03/11/2017 10:32

While the UK press is right wing as a whole, we have the option to choose what newspapers we buy. The daily mail and the express may be rabidly right wing however I have never bought either of those papers in my life. I used to buy the Guardian before it turned into a parody of itself and the Independent. The only time I read the Sun is when DH buys it for the football score and the Scottish Sun doesn't seem that right wing.
The BBC which me pay for on pain of prison seems to have gone beyond simply reporting the facts of the news and moved into the realm of social engineering. Look at for example the amount of Trans stories and Trans programmes the BBC have. Or their coverage of the migrant crisis or the US election.
Hilary Clinton ran a campaign so inept that she lost to Donald Trump. It was nothing to do with the Russians, the reason she lost was that she spent all her time preaching to the converted and ignored swing voters outside the cities and focused too on the analytics. However the BBC treated her like visiting royalty or something for example her appearances on the One Show and Graeme Norton. When was the last time the BBC had a failed Republican candidate on the Prime Time TV ?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 03/11/2017 10:34

When Blair was in power, a lot of comics generally considered to be on the left satirised him and the politics of spin, WOMD, etc.... Now that the right are in power, comics use satire, parody, and stand-up as ways to explore and critique things like savage cuts to public services, the ludicrousness of Brexit, the weakness of Theresa May, the insanity of Johnson and Gove.... although Corbyn comes in for a fair amount of satirical treatment too, to be fair.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 03/11/2017 10:39

The BBC were relatively neutral in the Brexit campaign, because they thought remain would win, but since leave won they've gone into over drive. Leave voters are stupid and old "a basket of deplorable's". Look at when they sent sex pest Adrian Chiles to visit some Brexit voters and found a family who keep a horse in the house. Every story is despite Brexit. Unemployment falls despite Brexit, exports increase despite Brexit.

ArcheryAnnie · 03/11/2017 10:48

The main Obama scandal was him once wearing a tan suit, so there's not as much material to work from. When you have corruption, foreign interference, nepotism, sexual assault, and all the other shenanigans that Trump has provided us all with, there's a lot more to make a scandal documentary about.

And as for a "left wing bias" - are you for real? Do you actually read the papers? The Mail, the Evening Standard, The Telegraph, The Economist, etc etc? I would frankly love it if there were a left-wing boas, but sadly there isn't, quite the opposite.

silenceisadistantmemory · 03/11/2017 10:51

Given that the BBC get accused of bias by both the right and left, I think it’s probably ok.

People forget that totally unbiased, neutral reporting, writing or broadcasting is pretty much impossible within a particular piece, article, story or program. What the BBC does is put out a mix of stuff.

One example (even if it is biased) does not make the BBC as a whole, biased.

sinceyouask · 03/11/2017 10:53

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Um, no. No, I don't. Not when we have the Mail, Sun, Express, Times, Telegraph, etc. Not when the BBC treat today's Labour as dangerously far left loony extremists, and as for ITV and Sky News, anyone thinking they have some sort of left bias has drunk the kool aid.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 03/11/2017 11:05

I don't have to pay for the Mail, Sun, Express, Times, Telegraph on pain of jail though do I.

ArcheryAnnie · 03/11/2017 11:19

lessworriedaboutthecat you do know that just as many people complain to the BBC about their right-wing bias, no? If they are getting complaints from both sides, that should tell you something.

Look at how often Nigel Farage - the man who repeatedly failed to get elected as a British MP - is on Any Questions and Question Time. What's that if not right-wing bias in those flagship political programmes?

PlausibleSuit · 03/11/2017 11:21

To the comedy point, I think right-wing satire is just hard to make happen. The idea of satire is that it (metaphorically) lobs a brick through the window of large institutions like governments and corporations, and the people who run them. Because the people who run them tend to be right-wing, there's less incentive to throw the brick, because chances are it'll land on your own foot.

If you see right-wing politics as based around the idea of protecting and preserving what already exists, again, the concept of maintaining a status quo just isn't funny.

And because the right-wing is seen as the ones with all the money, a right-wing comic poking fun at the left would have to be exceptionally skilful not to come across as spiteful and mean.

Also, I think when you say 'right-wing comedians' people tend to think of old-school sorts like Jim Davidson, Roy 'Chubby' Brown, Jethro and so on. Those acts are not only offensive - although I did enjoy Roy 'Chubby' Brown satirising himself in League of Gentlemen - but the style is hopelessly out of date. Maybe the production bookers are nervous about putting right-wing comedians on panel shows because they worry there will be off-colour jokes about race, women, gay people...

To news media... I think the idea of bias in media is sad, full-stop. Once upon a time people watched the news for the facts. Now they select their media source based on who is going to spoon-feed them the warm diarrhoea that's most like their own, whether that's the Daily Mail or the Canary.

foodiefil · 03/11/2017 11:26

It sounds like the majority of people in media could be left wing leaning, I mean entertainment media.

Who would have thought that people like comedians, actors, writers, the creative often eccentrics of this world could be left wing?

Honestly I just don't know what the world is coming to anymore

lessworriedaboutthecat · 03/11/2017 22:15

Lets be honest most comedians, actors and writers aren't creative eccentrics anymore their mostly middle class privately educated twats peddling their safe bien pensant views to people who want to have their own prejudices fed back to them.

Carolinesbeanies · 04/11/2017 08:56

Totally agree with everything lessworried has said in here.

The media, across the board, is swilling around in a cesspit of bias and political comment. Most of the time quite openly. Its indeed 21st century attempts at social engineering. The issue is, not many now take a blind bit of notice, and thats upsetting the great and the good. (Not to mention the pollsters)

We used to mutter that 'apologies' took up a tiny paragraph on page 7 of some rag or buried deep in a website, now, they dont even bother with the 'apology'. Accuracy and factual reporting has been replaced with reams of 'could's , 'mays' and 'ifs', for one purpose only. Political comment.

silenceisadistantmemory · 04/11/2017 09:55

There is no such thing as unbiased reporting.

It does not exist. It is basically impossible.

The intelligent thing to do is to get your news from lots of different sources and make up your own mind.

Drives me mad when people complain about bias!

mummmy2017 · 04/11/2017 18:10

I must admit I read about yet another blooper by Ms D Abbott about 16 being young enough to die in the army, but not to vote, and yet some papers mention it and some don't. This is a position of importance that is her job, how can she keep making these mistakes.
Then a Tory quits due to misdemeanours yet a labour person doesn't, sometimes the double standards of each side amaze me.