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Livingstone rears his ugly head again

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SoloD · 01/08/2017 11:13

Apparently the problem in Venezuela is due to the previous President not murdering the "Elite" (and of course the US). Full interview is in the Times but you can read parts of it here.

order-order.com/2017/08/01/ken-venezuela-chaos-chavez-not-execute-establishment-elite/

Given that back in the day Corbyn and Livingstone were such political soul mates I wonder how much Corbyn agrees and what the implications are fore Britian is Corbyn became MP.

His Economic plans would certainly cause huge upheavals in the UK economy and I would go as far as saying that is likely to lower living standards and create significant unemployment. If they know that they are unlikely to win a second term are these Marxist who only a few years ago were calling for violent revolution will they meekly hand over the reigns of power or will they take the Venezuelan option?

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Dapplegrey2 · 03/08/2017 16:27

Solo - I read that and had to reread it to make sure I'd read it correctly.
Yes, Livingstone actually said Chavez should have MURDERED his political opponents.
I'm speechless.
Also some of Corbin's advisors and Labour politicians have refused to condemn the Chavez/Madura regime, despite members of the opposition in Venezuela being imprisoned, the country is on its knees, there are major shortages of food and medicine.
Is this what's in store for U.K. if Corbyn wins the next election?

roarityroar · 03/08/2017 16:29

Funny the leftist rent a mob are strangely quiet here

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/08/2017 16:33

Wish they would stop giving him air time

Dapplegrey2 · 03/08/2017 17:00

Piglet - yes but if Livingstone actually says that dictators should murder their opponents then maybe any supporters he has left will finally see him for what he is.

TheaSaurass · 04/08/2017 01:13

For UK politicians (and their followers) that support revolutionary uprisings against their domestic governments across every continent, Venezuela is a bit of a wannabe ‘revolutionaries’ dilemma, as the oppressive President Madura was their hero (the previous President Chavez’s) chosen successor, so to denounce Madura would be to denounce their much-lauded Venezuelan ‘big state’ model AND the man who implemented it.

May 2017; “Venezuela is collapsing into socialist induced chaos, yet it remains a Corbynista poster child”

“Chávez forcefully nationalised more than 1,150 companies, including the oil industry, public utilities, and many banks. Their productivity has duly collapsed. Today, nationalisation is a dirty word in Venezuela and the people are clamouring for these industries to be privatised again.”

“With all this, Chávez quickly became the socialist darling of Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and Ken Livingstone. Livingstone even invited him to Westminster. He gave a speech in which he said he fully identified with Labour’s traditions. He added that there is no Third Way between socialism and capitalism, and the only way forward for humanity is socialism.”

Now who would have thought that an economic model of an overly large State with corruption and inefficiencies, de-emphasising their wealth creating private sector, run by an autocrat and his apparatchiks - would have ended up an economic basket case with the poor poorer than they were – I mean, its not as if there are examples of similar ideologies going boobs up during the 20th century (also killing the academics to silence dissent) to learn from, now is there, like a Mao’s China? Hmm

So its perfectly understandable when such a sound, moral crusade of an ideology that is meant to make everyone equal goes wrong in making everyone as dirt poor as each other, it always HAS to be someone else’s fault - and they have to go ‘up against’ the wall’, so Mr Livingstone is just giving us his logical ‘solution’.

Jayfee · 04/08/2017 01:28

Oh great. I am up because I can't sleep and the radio broadcaster was just saying that Corbyn is now ahead of May (not that May is anything to shout about) and Labour would win a general election. Combine that with Brexit and we could be in for very dark days. Trump in the Whitehouse, Boris foreign secretary, the world is going mad!

TheaSaurass · 04/08/2017 15:42

I think I spot a trend.

“Hard-left lawmakers in France say Maduro no dictator”

While his party colleagues DEFEND Venezuela President Maduro, the far left ‘France Unbowed’ party leader Jean-Luc Melenchon has remained silent over events in Venezuela, as Melenchon, a former Troskyist, has always called Venezuela's former leader Hugo Chavez a political hero.

Totally unrelated within this clique of international comrades, in the absence of internationally recognised independent observers since 2006, a President Maduro keen to show the recent election was NOT dodgy, invited another ‘delegation’ of observers, including the Sinn Féin MP for Newry & Armagh, as one of those unbiased observers.

The man from Sinn Fein duly declared the Venezuelan election “fair and equitable”.

With such an historically staunch party of the democratic process, who can possibly doubt that it wasn’t?

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