Did the BBC Lie?

[otex]

It certainly seems so

bbcpanoramasavingsyriaschildren.wordpress.com/ bit.ly/2bx7v0b

Claig - not at all - www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/4zFwbnWnBmWMsZNgVPF1wnJ/dr-saleyha-ahsan

More on her in this complaint to the BBC:
bit.ly/1QKqL62
bit.ly/1RcPCOa

'incendiary weapon strike on a school near Alleppo'

Blimey, the Telegraph even spelt Aleppo wrong. Surprising for such an important issue.

'If it was a propaganda fabrication then the primary target was therefore presumably the viewing public rather than MPs.'

Are you referring to the drinkers at the Dog and Duck? The only people who vote are the MPs, the denizens of the Dog and Duck don't know where Aleppo is or how to spell it, a bit like US Libertarian Presidential candidate, Gary Johnson, of "What is Aleppo?" fame, where the interviewer says to him "you are kidding?" and he says "no, what is Aleppo?"

DrDonna - as I mentioned, the aim was presumably to reinforce the appetite for war in the public mind following the anticipated government win (which didn't transpire of course), rather than to directly influence MPs.

'the aim was presumably to reinforce the appetite for war in the public mind following the anticipated government win (which didn't transpire of course), rather than to directly influence MPs.'

Yes, I see your point. It is no good the public being opposed to it if the MPs give it the go-ahead.

The vid at approx 7:50 looks fake.

My ex-fiance's brother was a photojournalist for many years. He said that within the corners of a photo you could make a scene 'say' several things.

He said that he and others had deliberately placed children's soft toys in various scenes in order to ramp up the emotion of a piece.

Rebels were losing. Bombing would have turned the tide, set Assad back and would have helped the Jihadis

Jihadis are looking for another vacuum and hoping that the West will be fool enough to fall for it again, as we did re Hussein and Gaddafi. And look what happened; people far, far worse than those two moved in. Islamists want the same for Syria.

otex Thanks for the link to the Guardian piece by Jean Seaton. Thoroughly amazing.

Messed up the link to the full Panorama edition 'Saving Syria's Children' before - it's vimeo.com/140567469 with relevant section from 30:38

Note that this Vimeo upload is the sole remaining copy available on the net - since July 2014 BBC Worldwide has been diligently blocking all You Tube copies of this particular programme, while leaving numerous other editions of Panorama untouched: bbcpanoramasavingsyriaschildren.wordpress.com/#blocking

There is an ongoing Freedom of Information request to try to get the BBC to release the original footage: wp.me/p4gebB-28Z

The FOI appeal won't work - theres a specific exemption that covers it that's been tested right through the courts.

Are you suggesting that the Establishment (of where?) have used Crisis Actors? Because that puts you on the level of a Sandy Hook Truther, and that's a bad place to be.

As noted above, someone who appears to have been involved has personally contacted me: bit.ly/1tFth3F

Otex, the aim you suggest doesn't justify the cost. There was no need. Our government have history of ignoring mass protests over war. And Panorama is quite a niche programme anyway.

DoctorDonnaNoble - disregarding the interpretation I have put on it, look at the information presented in the two main links ( bit.ly/1qA9qAA
bit.ly/1SKCvYp ) summarised in this letter to Jeremy Corbyn ( bit.ly/1Ovp268 ).

Wouldn't you say there are questions to be answered about this report?

Note that there is a link between one of the doctors involved, Saleyha Ahsan, and the British military injury simulation training programme HOSPEX ( bit.ly/1ugzTBE ). One of the companies which works on HOSPEX trainings, TraumaFX, states that it “can easily travel international as we are a mobile team and can work in any location”. ( t.co/JDaVYfkBnG ).

As noted, the initial report was broadcast on the main BBC 10 O'clock News and then the full Panorama programme was shown a month later in September 2013. Panorama airs worldwide through BBC World News on digital, satellite and cable.

You want the truth
You can't handle the truth!

It's hard for people to who think of themselves of being caring, informed and intelligent, being completely hoodwinked by people and institutions they trust.

The situation in Syria is far from what the masses in UK have been led to believe.

This is nothing new, this has been going on a very long time.

An a similar example of manipulating public opinion came just before the First Gulf War.
Back then the American public had no appetite for a war with Iraq over Kuwait.

Consent was engineered using a nurse called Nayirah who testified before congressmen that Iraqi soldiers had thrown newborns out of incubators leaving them to die

The testimony was heartrending, take a look.

However her testimony was entirely false, she was not a nurse but the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States, she was actually in the US at the time of the invasion.

Her testimony swung public opinion and the USA went to war.

People are naive if they think they can trust what they are fed by the establishment and MSM.

It's probably worse now than back then.

Do the BBC lie and fabricate?
Absolutely!

You still haven't explained the point though. It wouldn't have changed the mind of MPs and the public aren't consulted.
One of the biggest protests ever was against the Second Iraq war. A couple of MPs resigned but you know what, we still went to war. Public 'appetite' for war isn't really that big a consideration.