Leave or remain polls

[MusicMum18]

Hi

Just wondering how the polls are looking. I live 'oop north' and feel in the minority, voting remain! I am wondering whether it is therefore as close as what people are saying as it feels like leave have it sorted up here!

My brother tells me that down in London it is mostly remain too but just wondering what people are thinking....

[Globetrotter100]

Next 2 major polls out around 10pm I think.

[AuntieStella]

The BBC has been doing a poll tracker

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36271589

And it really is too close to call, both campaigns moving between about 40-45%, with don't knows between 15-20%.

[caroldecker]

musicmum Why, if it is close, should remain be the default just because it is your preference. There is no compromise to an in/out decision.

[Brokenbiscuit]

I think Farage is starting to really damage his own campaign now. He is starting to look quite desperate. I think there will be a reaction against him in the latest polls, because most decent people will feel alienated.

I'm a Remain voter but I do think there are some valid arguments on both sides. I bet some of the more moderate Brexiteers are wishing that Farage would shut the fuck up.

[AlpacaLypse]

In the last general election, according to my FB feed it should have been a labour landslide. But it wasn't. A huge number of people don't talk about their political position in public, and a huge number of people don't do social media.

My immediate family - middle class professional in the south - is currently 3 Remain, 6 Out, and 2 Absolutely Fed Up and Refusing To Talk About It.

[AlpacaLypse]

Oh and YY Would Farage F off please? I'm Out on democratic grounds - my biggest influence has actually been Tony Benn!

[GlacindaTheTroll]

"currently 3 Remain, 6 Out, and 2 Absolutely Fed Up and Refusing To Talk About It"

Only two? That's the surprise shock outcome!

[MusicMum18]

Carol decker what I am trying to say is that if the country is so evenly split, whichever decision we reach, potentially almost half will oppose. That's a lot of people. I think the politicians should try to find a compromUse

That was my most recent post. Whichever way we vote, it's not enough of the pop to make such an important decision.

No need for personal attacks I'm not stupid enough to say the uk should vote remain just because I say so. I just think that n this day and age there must be a better way of making a decision based on the wishes of all of our communities. Not just who scrapes a win, whichever side it is!

As I said the politicians should reach a compromise and find some middle ground. They get paid enough.

[tilder]

I haven't heard a single mention. It's like it's not happening. There is the odd Remain billboard on farmland.

It's going to be acrimonious afterwards whatever the vote. So much bad feeling has been stirred up.

The Scottish referendum was meant to be a once in a generation. Someone forgot to tell NS that. I can't believe the EU question will go away afterwards either.

[NapoleonsNose]

I'm in Cornwall too and we have the only Remain poster, put up by DD18 who is very engaged with the debate, in a sea of Leave. In fact, I don't think I have even seen another Remain poster at all. We are all Remain.

[PortiaCastis]

Yes I know I live in a fishing town and the boats are going out with leave flags flapping. The fishermen are fed up. My dd cannot vote yet but says she'd want to leave she's 17. I'm with the fishermen.

[Globetrotter100]

Financial Times poll of polls - updated 22 June

ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

44% Remain, 45% Leave

[BurnTheBlackSuit]

99% of those I know are remain. They are very vocal about it on Facebook and very rude about leavers. I am leave, but no one knows- I don't tell them as I don't want them assuming I'm a racist (which I'm not. I don't care about immigration and I hate Farage and Gove).

The polls are close, but I think it will be remain vote- 55/45 split. Everyone will hate everyone else afterwards and there will be a huge far right vote in 2020. . The EU will further integrate small step by small step (therefore not triggering a future referendum) and we'll end up as part of the USE.

However, a vote of 51/49 is still the fairest way to do it. It's democracy at its finest- we all get a say. There is no other way.

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

there will be a huge far right vote in 2020 absolutely agree. c50% of the electorate will feel aggrieved and a majority will vote UKIP in the hope it ignites another referendum. This issue won't die down.

[Grassgreendashhabi]

I'm clacton and very much leave area.

Everywhere or anyone you talk to want out.

[Brokenbiscuit]

there will be a huge far right vote in 2020 absolutely agree. c50% of the electorate will feel aggrieved and a majority will vote UKIP in the hope it ignites another referendum. This issue won't die down.

Yes, I agree. So much hatred and anger has been whipped up now, it won't be possible to put it back in the box after the referendum, regardless of the result. The leave campaign has made the rhetoric of hatred seem mainstream, and people will therefore feel that it is acceptable.

If the remain campaign wins, many leave voters will be angry that they have "lost" the opportunity to get out of the EU. If the leave campaign wins, I think many leave voters will be angry when they realise that they have been deceived and that Brexit won't solve their problems after all. Either way, they will be looking for scapegoats...

The trouble is, the leave campaign have obviously made a conscious decision to focus on emotion rather than fact. I'm not sure how easy it will be to backtrack from that approach.

[0phelia]

The leave campaign have made a conscious decision to focus on emotion rather than fact

Right... So those voting Leave are all completely imagining how their lives have been affected, they're all lying and just over emotional, and Remain have never told a single untruth. It's exactly this sort of condensing pompousness that damages the Leave Campaign.

[0phelia]

Oops I mean it damages the Remain Camaign

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

0phelia - no BrokenBiscuit said the Leave campaign, not Leave voters.

[Brokenbiscuit]

Thanks Kitten.

Ophelia, please don't put words into my mouth. I haven't said any of that.

[MangoMoon]

I don't think the Leave campaign has 'made the rhetoric of hatred seem mainstream'.

What I have seen is that almost everything that the Leave campaign has brought up as issues have been re-phrased and shouted up as hatred by remain.

Classic example:

Affected by the numbers & unpredictability of free movement, would like restrictions & policy change.

^Racist! It's not the immigrants fault - stop blaming immigrants.
^

[Twinkie1]

Voting remain won't mean no change though. The EU will have to change dramatically in the coming years and voting remain means we will be swept along with that change with less chance of opting out of things as we'll be firmly entrenched with no chance of being able to get out.

I'm happy to take migrants, I'm happy to pay in, I'm not happy to be part of an in democratic entity which has said it will ignore far right governments even if they are democratically elected.

[Twinkie1]

I think if we vote leave Gove will be the next PM not Boris.

[OrangesandLemonsNow]

I actually think the next PM will be someone you completely don't expect.

[SaveSomeSpendSome]

I live north west and i dont know anyone who is voting remain