Fellow Trumpites, huge announcemnet expected in the next few hours

[claig]

Trump has teased there will be a huge announcement at his rally in Ames, Iowa tonight. Special guest will be there.

Elites across the world are in panic, luvvies are having a lie down, Oxbridge is tuned in, PPES are petrified.

Will Palin endorse Trump? Is it game over for the Establishment?

No one knows. Elites are in meltdown and Trump fans are already doing the hokey-cokey.

'said he was going to "protect the guns"'

He will protect the Second Amendment laid out in the American Constitution by the Founding Fathers.

To see that class of nobodies who claimed bath plugs off the people debate in our great and historic Parliament banning him in our great free country which spread liberty and free speech across the world, is shameful.

Except they only debated it because we, the people, asked them to.

A tiny bit of democracy in action. Or mob rule, if you don't like the message.

Yes Trump is a man of the people.

Provided they are white heterosexual male people.

My understanding of his meeting with the black pastors is a little different. Yes he may have spent ages talking but didn't he tweet that he was getting endorsements only to retract it when the endorsements didn't materialise?

Claig are you Piers Morgan

'Except they only debated it because we, the people, asked them to. '

But it was all pretence like usual. There was no vote that could ban him. Half of the bigger wigs didn't dare turn up to debate becuse when he becomes President it won't be good for them. It is a show for nobodies to pretend to us that they care and have some power. They strutted about, called the next President of the United States a "fool" and a "wazzock", insulted our intelligence and made our country look foolish. FOrtunately, most Americans hadn't heard what our nobodies were up to but some of them on Fox News were not impressed and that lets our whole country down. The "nobodies" don't represent the ordinary people, they don't speak for us and yet they made a mockery of our country to the world., all for show and pretnce and all for their own aggrandisement and probably an extra bath plug.

'My understanding of his meeting with the black pastors is a little different. Yes he may have spent ages talking but didn't he tweet that he was getting endorsements only to retract it when the endorsements didn't materialise?'

He tweeted beforehand that he had their endorsement and he didn't. That was a mistake and they were angry. But I heard an interview on US radio with a black pastor who was at the meeting and who said he had never seen anything like it. The way Trump dealt with the anger, the humility he showed, the patience and courtesy he showed was amazing. And after a long meeting, before he had to fly off to yet another rally in his gruelling schedule to defeat the Wall Street puppets, he spent an extra 30 minutes after the metting posing for selfies that attendees wanted to take and signing autographs and speaking to people. He said in all his years of meetings with baptist preachers, he had never seen anything like the skill with which Trump handled himself and said that if he can do that with baptist ministers, he can do it for the country.

I don't trust the media to tell the truth about him.

Do you can imagine him any way you like. That's great.

'Claig are you Piers Morgan'

No, I can't stand Piers Morgan. I wish the Daily Mail didn't use his articles with his smug face on the photograph. He is a Labourite. I don't like him, even though he has met and likes Trump.

They strutted about

I think you'll find they sat on their comfy leather arses.

some of them on Fox News were not impressed

Hang on, I'm getting confused: I thought you weren't in favour of The Murdoch? So if he's not impressed, that's... good... isn't it...?

Trump speaks off teh cuff, there are no scripts, no teenage whizzkids tell him what to say. He makes mistakes, he tweets in anger, he gets into spats, he says things that are wrong because he is real and unscripted. The people, the Republican base, forgive him because they know he is real unlike the bought and paid for Wall Street candidates.

Trump wanted teh endorsement of teh black pastors because he is not as conservative as some of the other candidates. Trump is more of a liberal, a Reagan Democrat type. That doesn't go down well with some of teh ultra religious types. Trump is in a battle to the end. He intends to become President, he intends to save America, save the middle class, end the Middle East wars and give people their jobs and hope back. It is serious, it is real. The entire Establishment and media are against him because he is not controlled.

He needed Palin to endorse him to sway the real conservative Tea Party types and evalengicals who like Cruz. Trump is in a battle to the end, he has to save America. That is why he has called Cruz "a real nasty guy that nobody likes". He is not like our mealy-mouthed political class of nobodies who wouldn't dare say the like.

If Trump becomes the Republican nominee, which is his first hurdle, he will then be in a fight to the end with Clinton, if she hasn't already been indicted by that time. And Trump will then tell the public everything about Bill and how Hillary helped him. He won't take pleasure in it, he gets on with everybody, but he has to win to save America and that is what he will do.

Don't believe the BBC and our political class, watch Trump for yourself and see what is really at stake and why puppets across the world are trembling at the prospect of Trump getting into the White House.

Despite such glowing sentiments (which weren't exactly universal amongst the pastors) still no endorsements.

If he speaks for the silent majority then I pity the rest. Including us. He and Palin show dismissive, arrogant and frankly aggressive tendencies against non Americans (as well as to a lot of americans). The world would be a very unstable place with them in charge of the USA.

'They strutted about

I think you'll find they sat on their comfy leather arses.'

I didn't even watch the inconsequential shower to be honest. I am just imagining how they must have risen from their benches, jabbed their fingers and called the next President of the United States "a wazzock". I knew our country was in decline, but I didn't want to be reminded of it by watching the nobodies get their 5 minutes of fame.

'some of them on Fox News were not impressed

Hang on, I'm getting confused: I thought you weren't in favour of The Murdoch? So if he's not impressed, that's... good... isn't it...?'

It wasn't Murdoch. I don't care what Murdoch thinks, he cares about power and now he is belatedly realising that nothing can stop Trump and is therefore now belatedly softening to him. What I care about is ordinary Americans and American influential journalists and conservatives thinking that our country is a washed-out joke with nobodies trying to ban a future American President, top of the polls among millions of ordinary American voters, for exercising free speech.

He makes mistakes, he tweets in anger, he gets into spats, he says things that are wrong

That's the stuff we want from an US President indeed.

Donald J Trump is a buffoon and having Sarah Palin endorse you is the kiss of death. Mind you, if he gets the nomination it means Hillary or Bernie (I'm rooting for Bernie, at least he's not a corporatist) is a shoo in.

'still no endorsements'

Not yet. But you should have heard Jerry Falwell's introduction about Trump. It wasn't an endorsement, but it was amazing and as near as you can get. Trump will win over lots and lots of people, there is still a lot of time left.

'He and Palin show dismissive, arrogant and frankly aggressive tendencies against non Americans'

Some of that is for show and to appeal to the base. It is tough talk but not necessarily what they will do. It's politics, the Art of the Deal, a show.

' The world would be a very unstable place with them in charge of the USA.'

It won't. Read up about Trump. He was against the Iraq War, he said it would destabilise the Middle East. He has said that Hillary is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, he says the waste of lives was awful and unnecessary. He says that the world would have been better and safer with Saddam and Ghadaffi in power. He has said he thinks he will get on with Putin. He has said that America has wasted trillions in the Middle East and got nothing for it. He says he will end the wars and rebuild America and bring jobs back.

He wants to save America. His policy will be completely different to Wall Street's which is why every puppet in the world is against him.

'That's the stuff we want from an US President indeed.'

It doesn't matter. it is real. the people are sick of phoneys and "career politicians" in the pockets of lobbyists, donors and Wall Street.

The real reason trump is winning with ease is because he dares to be politically incorrect and dares to defy the conventions of the media class, the donor class, the Establishment and their paid for political class. It wil take courage to challenge that lot and save America and trump has shown that he can flip the finger at the lot of them and still soar in the polls.

'some of them on Fox News were not impressed

Hang on, I'm getting confused: I thought you weren't in favour of The Murdoch? So if he's not impressed, that's... good... isn't it...?'

It wasn't Murdoch. I don't care what Murdoch thinks, he cares about power and now he is belatedly realising that nothing can stop Trump

So... the people are good, but Murdoch is bad, but some people on Fox news (which Murdoch controls) said Parliament being democratic was bad, which you think is good, because you support Trump who says democracy is good, but only if it's his, which we all think is bad, which you think is good because we're all the elite anyway so if we think it it MUST be bad...

This is exhausting. Kudos for keeping it up, but I am getting a little concerned for the state of the inside of your skull. (Would you like some tea, or have we decided that The Donald probably wouldn't approve )

because he dares to be politically incorrect and dares to defy the conventions

Ahhhh, Farage writ large [nostalgic sigh].

That's all absolutely fandabidozy and correct right up until the point voters start considering what will actually happen to their pension once you put the crazy, narcissist-haired, orange-faced, angry man in touch with his ego AND the big red button.

'but some people on Fox news (which Murdoch controls) said Parliament being democratic was bad'

Many of the Fox News lot don't want Trump to win, but they are all in favour of democracy. They thought it was wrong to try and ban someone for exercising free speech. That is alien to Americans where freedom of speech is enshrined in the First Amendment.

I am all for democracy, just not pointless posturing and debating by nobodies for 3 hours without a vote that can actually ban him, while steel jobs in Port Talbot are being lost and nobodies are parading about and calling the next President of the United States a "wazzock".

' we're all the elite anyway so if we think it it MUST be bad.'

We are not the elite, we are the people who are mocked and insulted and laughed at by the elite who posture while steel jobs are being lost.

'up until the point voters start considering what will actually happen to their pension once you put the crazy, narcissist-haired, orange-faced, angry man in touch with his ego AND the big red button'

But that is the point of elections and democracy. I think Trump will win with ease against Clinton, if she is not indicted before then. There is still a doubt that Trump will become the Republican nominee because the Republican Establishment want to stop him. Bush insists that Trump won't be the nominee. Trumpites have our fingers crossed that Jeb Bush will be wrong, but nothing is for certain yet.

Jerry Falwell, president of Liberty University that offers online courses to 100,000 students, and hosts the Centre for Creation studies?

Maybe Ivanka Trump can sort out Track Palin.

Serious question claig.
If the Trump triumphs then how do you see it panning out in the Senate and Congress? If you see Trump as a democratic Republican then how is he going to get stuff done? A man who's used to being an autocratic business man.

*Sorry for being a downer on a jolly thread

That is a very good question Giddy.

Trump says he is a deal maker, he gets on with people, just like he did in business and at the black pastor meeting etc. Trump says that Obama can't get anything through Congress, he can't convince anyone and make deals and compromises and is therefore now resorting to executive orders to push through policies. Today, the Attorney General of Texas has challenged Obama's asylum policy as being unconstitutional.

Trump says that the Constitution must be respected and that he will get people together and do deals and carry out government as it should be done via Congress etc rather than by executive orders and decrees.

Trump is not an out and out conservative, he was liberal in many ways before, and he will get on with the Democrats. At the moment, the Republicans control both Houses. Lots of Republican elites are anti Trump, but I think he will end up getting such a popular mandate that the puppets will have to work with Trump to save their seats.

'A man who's used to being an autocratic business man'

He is a deal maker, he makes compromises, he doesn't lay down the law or executive orders. But he will fire any staff who are incompetent and not up to the task of serving the American people.

he gets on with people, just like he did in business

But it WAS a serious question, and your answer doesn't describe the Salmon/Sturgess/Trump business relationship.

Congress won't get past pork barreling politics with the biggest porker of all in front of the parade.

I think 'compromise' is probably not his default position.

And in making deals he will end up not delivering the Trump message. Or at least diluting it. There aren't Trumpalikes out there waiting to take Congress and the Senate over. Their electoral system means he'd have to start delivering on day 1 whilst the same faces are in the legislature.

'and your answer doesn't describe the Salmon/Sturgess/Trump business relationship'

I don't know enough about that. Trump says he will do deals and get on. I believe him, but I could be wrong. So far millions of Republican voters believe him. Ther eis an element of trsut involved. Do you trust the usual liars, the "career politicians" who have let Republicans down again and again, or do you trsut Trump? There is no alternative to Trump for millions of Republican voters, they don't trust the Establishment. Every Fox and CNN bulletin about the election is about the ant-establishment insurgency of Trump, Cruz and Carson against the Establishment's last hope, Marco Rubio.

And it is the same on the Democrat side, with Sanders outpolling Clinton in New Hampshire and very close in Iowa.

There is going to be a huge change in America because people have had enough of the Establishment, just like here, only even more there now.

'Trump popularity linked to 'mass dissatisfaction''

The rise of populism in U.S. politics is a direct result of a growing disparity in trust between the vast majority of the population and the global elite, public relations executive Richard Edelman told CNBC on Wednesday at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

This gap in trust between the "informed public" — college-educated professionals with a household income in the top 25 percent for their age in their country — and the general population is now the largest ever, his eponymous communications marketing firm has found.

"Donald Trump is a clear result of this mass population's dissatisfaction with the current crop of candidates," Edelman said. He believes Trump is a serious candidate, but he's also convinced that voters with less conservative views will eventually rise up and speak out against the candidate for the Republican nomination.

Trump's popularity was directly linked to "mass dissatisfaction with how they are being talked to," Edelman said".

www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/trump-popularity-linked-to-mass-dissatisfaction.html

The "global elite" the Davos guy talked about are in meltdown. They hope the insurgency will stop, but it won't, it can't, because the people have woken up and have had enough.