claig .... I'll reiterate my points further above.
"Miliband took the Labour Party further to the left than Brown (based on his 2010 GE manifesto) and Corbyn is looking to take it further."
"And taking it further would mean a LARGER State than before, with even less understanding of how the Private Sector/Business that pays for it, works."
"In other words, it is the ideology/model that sucks a big one, so hard for any Labour individuals to ever really shine."
"Straight talking, honest politics" will be when a party, Old or New, that ideologically will always want high government spending, no cuts and THEREFORE much higher taxation - comes CLEAN on those tax rises to the MASSES before a General Election.
Admittedly the Tories didn't on Tax Credits, other than say £12 billion would be cut from Welfare before the last election.
Brown from 1997 to 2010 never did, Miliband in 2015 who said they'd be 'less cuts more taxes' than the other parties never did - and now Old McDonnell when asked how HE'D balance the UK books current £70 billion government overspend - reels off a few ideological tax rises i.e. Inheritance Tax and the top rate of tax back to 50p, which will raise relative £££ peanuts.
The day a socialist government tells the masses to PAY for our plans only meaningful rises in the likes of the basic rate of income tax and National Insurance has going UP will pay for it, and/or lose jobs/investment by keeping milking small, medium and large businesses - THAT will be both straight talking and honest, and there is no sign of it yet and I wager never will be as 'Turkey's don't ever vote for Christmas'.