While I disagree with Daves abominationes gaudens in a Ridiculum initiationis-with a dead pig, I hope he mentions other things at conference too..

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Not just other elements of the recent book, but also more foodbanks, more suicides of people who are sick and also homelessness.

Just think how bad it would have been if economically clueless Miliband/Labour stayed in power - and the UK had totally have run out of credit/money.

Just think how bad it will be with the new Labour leader who has sex with live pigs, luvs Russians, hates pressing buttons,went all the way to East Germany for his holidays - no doubt for their pork based vittles - and is completely economically incompetent.

Looking for a leader in any ugly contest, I'd trust the one who enemies have to 'allege' school girl gossip, have a proven economic record (not spouting 6th Form Socialism theories) and can trust to defend the UK (not worrying if his national allegiance is to the Queen or than the Kremlin).

P.S. When a political leader has to STATE that he is a patriot, there is more going around school yard than alleged girly Chinese Whispers.

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

so do you think that Dave WILL talk about the poor people who have died because on welfare reform? And also the people dependant on foodbanks? And people who are working multiple part time jobs because employers circumvent pension responsibilities? Or zero hour contracts? And homelessness? Do you think he will say anything about protecting the young from pornography- when he has raised the spectre of necrophiliac bestiality in their imaginations when it would not have otherwise been there.?

Sure, after Labour apologise for their 13-year record to the poor with £trillions to spend and in 2010 feck all to show for it on all of the above you mention - which are tougher to fix when passed £1 trillion of national debt and a £153 billion annual overspend.

The Conservatives were not in power when this financial/economic/recession crisis started, they did not leave 1.7 mil families needing social homes in 2010 after 3 million new citizens arrived and found a home, Zero Hours around from late 1990s never had a Labour mention and we have more permanent job security than the Eurozone who employ far more Temps - and have TWICE our unemployment rate.

Aug 2015; ”The New World of Work: recovery driven by rise in temp jobs”

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2171222-31e4-11e5-8873-775ba7c2ea3d.html

”They call it the “precariat”. In a continent known for strong employee protections, more than half of the eurozone’s young workers are in temporary jobs, churning from one shortlived contract to the next.”

”In France, permanent jobs account for just 16 per cent of new contracts, down from a quarter in 2000. In Spain, almost seven in 10 young workers are on temporary contracts. The share of the eurozone’s 15 to 24-year-old workers who are temps is the highest on record, at 52.4 per cent.”

”Now that the eurozone’s recovery is at last under way, the question facing policymakers and politicians is whether the painful reforms of the last few years will do anything to address this.”

”But in parts of Europe, where temporary and contract work is unusually pervasive, economists say there is a dark side to the trend.”

”A deep fracture has emerged in Spain, France, Italy and Portugal over the past 20 years, with an older generation of highly protected permanent employees on one side and a younger generation forced to settle for insecure jobs on the other. That is one reason why youth unemployment surged when the crisis hit.”

“The rules for open-ended contracts in Europe are considered too stringent by employers and they sidestep those regulations by creating non-regular jobs,”

Now YOU can say thank you Dave, I know not what the feck I'm talking about - spending more time focusing on alleged gossip than the FACTS behind what has been achieved in correcting Labour's record where NOT ONE government department was passed over 'fit for purpose' after 13-years..

I wasn't spending time on the more salacious aspects of Daves past but on whats happening now. As amusing as they are I know nothing of the peer pressure he must have been under to submit to such a strange induction and I guess people would be more bothered if the pig had been alive.

I am more concerned with what's happening now, while he is in Gov- and what he is doing to people on the ground. He is blighting them and that's all there is to it.
I fear it will be like Thatcher- generations from now sociologists will be able to point to his regime and point to horrid side affects we, living in the present do not notice.
Whether this is by design, ineptitude or a callous disregard of us working people who like bingo and beer is a matter that historians will have to resolve.

He was a man without substance, a 'smooth operator' but since the thing with the pig he does not seem so smooth at all does he? Its almost as if he knows, every time the camera is on him, no one is really focusing on what he is saying pondering that strange induction decades ago.

So now he has lost his slickness, his gloss, his spin. He has nothing. He should have a least tried to have a bit of substance, then things might not be so bad for him now.

I fear it will be like Thatcher- generations from now sociologists will be able to point to his regime and point to horrid side affects we, living in the present do not notice.

I am concerned that anyone who can read/use the internet STILL does not understand that the UK before Thatcher was a complete economic and financial basket case – where the UK was known as ‘the sick man of Europe’ – and not fathom WHY Labour was kept out of power for 18-years by the people (like me) who was worried sick for the future living through a Labour government ran by trade unions.

I am not concerned for the right NOW as our children NOW understand that unlimited benefits is no longer an option as a way of life, where deciding it didn’t pay them to work is no longer an option, so there will NOT be a possibility of generations of families on the benefits as a way of life as a role model.

But I really do fear for the current generations educated over 13-years of Labour and the poor let down due to that education, housing and on the sharp end of a Labour government paying the poor via increased benefits to keep quiet - while they conducted a secret social experiment from 2000 to give jobs and homes over to mass immigration – just what will historians make of the aftermath on those 13-years of socialist polices on society for many years ahead?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Oct 2013; *“England’s young adults trail the world in literacy and maths”.%
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24433320

Young adults in England have scored among the lowest results in the industrialised world in international literacy and numeracy tests.

A major study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) shows how England's 16 to 24-year-olds are falling behind their Asian and European counterparts.

England is 22nd for literacy and 21st for numeracy out of 24 countries.
“A study by Nationwide finds that more than half of secondary school pupils struggle to work out change in their heads, prompting claims that maths lessons are leaving them "unequipped for everyday situations"

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10631728/Pupils-cannot-count-out-change-due-to-poor-maths-skills.html
“One question involved asking them to calculate the correct change from £100 if they had bought shopping totalling £64.23, but more than half – 52 per cent – gave the wrong answer. It emerged that more than a quarter were more than £1 out.”

And the alternative to a Cameron correcting a cluster fuck of Labour policies?

A Labour Party led by a man carrying the ideological/policy baggage made up of pigs ears of both that 1970’s Labour Party, AND those of the 2000s still in the Shadow Cabinet.

I dont think he ever was a 'smooth operator' its insane people ever thought this. He certainly was never in the same league as Blair when it came to the selling snake oil to the locals stakes and dont forget- you judge a person by their opponents.
first of he went a against Brown who was a big lumbering gump fuck. Then he was up against Millaband who look like his parents were space hoppers.

True story( but not as much fun as the one involving the pig). About 10 years ago Dave was having lessons in PR and presentation in order to make the prospect of such an abject toff more palatable to us base proles. My dear friend who working in that field actually was one of the people who helped 'groom' him- but don't blame her, she quit in disgust when she determined his true character. On one occasion they were actually giving him lessons on how to interact with working class people and he actually ran up to a woman and was like 'You there, I say-you there. Thats right you. Come and have your photo taken with me .' The woman(not knowing who he was ) was actually alarmed but that did not stop him muscling her and making her do it. My friend was left with the distinct impression that this man believes there is nothing bigger than himself and quit that day. BTW- he moves his hand a lot while speaking to cover a tremor- could be CJD (maybe David Ickes was right) or maybe he caught something of that pig-serves him right.

Socialists start and end with a pre conceived view on Conservatives so anything their polices achieve across a wide departmental area will never count - and spend all their time focusing on little niggly things usually class related to build their opposition upon - it is really quite pathetic.

Clearly your post reminded me of that.

Never look at what has been achieved by a Conservative government after the cluster fuck of a country Labour leaves (in 1979 and 2010), never look at the Labour policies that left a mess because how can you, you dust the same ones off when starting a new administration.

Currently under the banner "Straight Talking, Honest Politics" at a conference blaming the Conservatives for crisis polices needed to fix the last Labour cluster fuck - how contradictory is that.

Don't worry, let the Conservatives fix the 'car' again, for Labour to 'blow the fucking doors off' all over again.

I fear it will be like Thatcher- generations from now sociologists will be able to point to his regime and point to horrid side affects we, living in the present do not notice.

Whether this is by design, ineptitude or a callous disregard of us working people who like bingo and beer is a matter that historians will have to resolve.

People notice now, don't worry. It's only a minority of people who support the psychopaths.

Agreed, as decided by the General Election.

Actually based on Labour's record in power for WORKING people (and acceptance of that 13-year record) that is the wrong medical anal-ogy;

Schizophrenia (/?sk?ts??fr?ni?/ or /?sk?ts??fri?ni?/) is a mental disorder often characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to recognize what is real.

P.S. BRITISH working people that is, having had a life 'leg up' not a benefits 'put down', as 3 million citizens from the rest of the world were given jobs in some multi-cultural experiment from the 'sofa government'.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

'UP' the workers, quite.