Jeremy Corbyn's long awaited response to PigGate

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For those waiting with baited breath for JC's response to Pig Gate, he has done himself proud:

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/24/piggate-jeremy-corbyn-real-issues_n_8191464.html

The media treatment of any politician unsubstantiated allegations, be it David Cameron, me or anyone else is wrong,"

"Too much of our media is obsessed with personality politics, obsessed with personal criticism of politicians and therefore detracting from very serious issues around housing, living standards, jobs or world peace."*

And there you have it. The worst attack on his opponent happens less than two weeks after he comes into office, the opportunity to stick the knife in was handed to him on a plate. This is after the press have attempted to vilify JC for any dirt they could possibly dig up on him, and David Cameron himself branded him a threat to our country's national security. Jeremy Corbyn would have been well within his rights to have a good gloat. And instead he is a masterclass in dignified calm.

Can you IMAGINE what the Tories would have done with this if JC had been exposed in a similar way?

Quite franky I don't give a Sh*T as many others that were lucky to be born with common sense will either

I think that's quite the point Rosa

The fact that the whole internet has gone crazy over this, and JC has displayed common sense and dignity over this episode speaks volumes about him and his integrity.

I am no fan of Cameron but I think this pig gate thing is ridiculous. There is no proof and he is doing far worse things in broad daylight and with the support of many voters in the UK than what he is alleged to have done to a pig's head.

What is more obscene than that ridiculous ritual, if it is true, is the fact that this country is run by Old Etonians with off shore trust funds. This isn't democracy in my opinion.

Yes I think the pig thing is irrelevant, the bigger picture about the Old Boy's club and Lord Ashcroft expecting to buy himself a Cabinet position is more worrying.

I just can't help thinking that if Corbyn had been subjected to such an embarrassing exposure, the jeering and goading from the Tories would have been deafening.

But instead he's saying let's not get distracted by the headline grabbing shit, let's see the bigger picture. I have a lot of respect for that man.

Absolutely, I think Corbyn is almost certainly unelectable, he would be probably be wiped out if the Establishment thought he had a chance. But he has huge symbolic power to the masses of under 25s who haven't traditionally voted but who love to hear from someone who isn't a professional Bullshitter like so many politicians appear to be now. I'm not saying they are all bullshitters but god what a lot of BS I have heard from them over the years.
I also think it is to absolutely to Cameron's credit that he didn't let the odious Ashcroft think the could buy power. I mean this isn't Russia... yet.

The other thing is, however much Cameron is odious, God Help Us, Osbourne is worse in my opinion, I really fear him as PM. He would make Margaret Thatcher look like Michael Foot.

That's much what I would have expected him to say. Good chap.

I think it's just Corbyn's straight talking frank-ness that's such a breath of fresh air. He refuses to get drawn into the spin and bullshit.

David Cameron (and several other members of the Conservative party's) tweets and statements when JC was elected "The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security." was just laughable. I mean, really?

To go from that, to JC refusing to get drawn into mud-slinging when it's handed to him on a plate is highly commendable I think.

As for I also think it is to absolutely to Cameron's credit that he didn't let the odious Ashcroft think the could buy power. yes, I agree, if it's true. Of course, it could equally be that Cameron was happy to accept the money (£8 million I believe) and shaft him thinking he could get away with it. We'll never really know the truth on that one. To be honest, when stories like this come to the surface, I always think it's the stuff we don't know about that's probably far, far worse than what's being reported.

The other thing is, however much Cameron is odious, God Help Us, Osbourne is worse in my opinion, I really fear him as PM Oh god yes, totally agree. Makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

Osbourne is worse in my opinion I agree, he terrifies me

I find new Skinny Osbourne even more worrying than Pudgy Osbourne. Like he's found his mojo and he's more dangerous with it.

However, I also feel he's far less electable than Cameron. There's something more likeable about DC which Gideon just doesn't have. Boris, on the other hand, I think would win a landslide because people are shallow and don't see past the teddy bear image.

Seriously we should all be speaking up for Cameron if he's the only thing between us and GO; Cameron isn't perfect but he does have a little bit of a heart. I genuinely think GO is heartless, he is the worst kind of privileged ideologue and that awful election result (yes, I blame you Ed Miliband mostly) has given him the shiny eyed certainty of a cult leader who would happily give us all Kool Aid to drink while we lay down in the jungle and died for whatever he was seig Heiling at in his little Nuremberg in the clearing.
I mean we all want a successful economy but we should be human not simply driven by ideology and extreme privilege and the kind of noxious sense of entitlement that pours out of him.
Leaders should be tempered by some humility and that's just been bred out of them in years of SPAD petrie dishes where this generation of politicians were spawned after Eton and Oxford natch.

And yes, skinny Osbourne is scary. I have this awful feeling that he is using his refreshed libido to sort of the screw the UK to death leaving the country finally to massive landowners, global corporations favouring the most brutal ones, the royal family who will be kept in a kind of tank and worshipped/controlled, the aristocracy, some sections of the entertainment industry like the Royal Opera house and the Bankers of course. The City would be allowed to stay alive. If you aren't in a gated community you will be flooded out and washed away.
I mean he looks like he's enjoying power in the worst possible way.

Thing is, Cameron isn't the only thing between us and GO. Cameron has said this will be his last term, he's on his way out, LA's book only serves to demonstrate that the tide is turning and the people who are really in control have decided this is how it will be.

So DC won't prevent GO stepping into power. I actually think Boris is the only thing between us and GO.

Much as I like Corbyn, I agree he's unlikely to be elected. However, I don't think that's the point. I think he'll do a damn good job of challenging the Govt as thoroughly as possible between now and then, and then step aside for someone more polished and 'electable' to come to the fore when the time is right.

My theory was always that David Milliband was being kept in the wings until the right time. Now I'm not sure. He's certainly got PM appeal, but he doesn't fit with Corbyn's new approach, unless he undergoes a radical overhaul of his ideas.

But imagine a world where JC spends a few years picking big holes in the Tories, whilst engaging and firing up the young people and non-voters to build up a good strong Labour support. And then, when the time is right, a new shiny electable leader takes over. I think if they play it right, they would walk it.

Yes I hope that is what he'll do and I hope to God we don't get Osbourne or Boris, Boris has charm but he is so flawed as a person I think, he has a great intellect but he isn't good enough at the detail and is no less an arrogant elitist than George. I mean these guys believe they were born for power, I mean they weren't they? Bred for it.
I just want a person in power not an ideologue.

'But imagine a world where JC spends a few years picking big holes in the Tories, whilst engaging and firing up the young people and non-voters to build up a good strong Labour support. And then, when the time is right, a new shiny electable leader takes over. I think if they play it right, they would walk it.'

Yes, I think so too.

Let's hope so.

They do indeed believe they were born for power, which is why they're so worried that someone like Corbyn has such huge support. I bet they're perplexed by it.

I just hope JC settles in and really starts getting down to the nitty gritty now. Expose these knobs for what they really are.

Here here!

And I have no delusions about anyone in power, I am left leaning but I felt massively betrayed by Blair and Brown and their being fogged away from real progressive socialism by personal ambition, personal greed, personal antagonism with each other and an almost hysterical (in Blair's case) worship of the Yank Horror Presidency. I mean the man was like a girl with a crush and ignored enough of his electorate and enough of his most independent thinking advisors to just act like a mini loony emperor.
I just think Osbourne is more dangerous than Blair. He isn't tempered by any desire to redistribute wealth at at time when the gap between rich and poor has begun to baffle the wisest statisticians. I mean it's pure Capitalism and the survivalist of the most corrupt largely.

Please don't mention fracking or the Transatlantic Trade Partnership which will give Oil companies and Pharmaceutical companies the right to sue sovereign governments who stop them making as much money as they want to make?!?!?
I'm sorry but that, to me, is like recruiting paedophiles to run an orphanage. (rubs chin.... hmm that wouldn't be the first time that happened.....)
Sorry but hell, handcart etc

I'm going to sound really ignorant here, but I do want to know - why do you perceive GO as so dangerous? I don't think I've heard much about his personal politics.

You found that an inspiring act of magnanimity? I remember (and still orgasm over- in a mystical, glorious, non-sexual way) Browns insulting of an elderly lady while he was wired up to a live mic. I remember him going round to her house for tea to say sorry while a phalanx of out-of-their-depth befuddled aides tried to keep at bay a horde of journalists. I remember Brown failing to persuade her to accompany her outside for a photo that would demonstrate she forgave him.
And what was Camerons response? Did he gleefully point and sneer? Maybe privately. But maybe the current labour leader privately laughs from time to time.
Camerons response was equally noble and restrained. This deflated Gandalf you opted for is not the originator of a mystical New Way of anything.

You found that an inspiring act of magnanimity? Well yes, I did. And I'll say the same for Cameron's apparent reaction to Brown's awful indiscretion. I'm impressed when any politician resists the urge to jeer and name-call.

The fact that Cameron has resisted sneering at Brown doesn't negate Corbyn's magnanimous actions you know. They can both be grown ups.

And neither do I feel that Corbyn is the originator of a mystical New Way of anything. I think he's doing what he's been doing for the last 30-odd years, nothing new there.

But I DO love your description of him as a 'deflated Gandalf' that's fantastic!

If they jeered and name-called, they'd sound like cocks. And they know that.

People saying Osborne is so terrible and will make Margaret thatcher look like Michael foot, what a load of old tosh. Why do you think that?!

Osborne is really not radically right wing