If Dave had sex with a pig then you just know Boris did too....

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The two other big names on the Conservative landscape- Boris Johnson and George Osbourne- both attended similar or the very same educational establishments where this sort of ceremonial induction was a requisite. Had we not better look a bit further away for the next leader of the tories? That would ensure that they are then perceived as a party of meritocracy and not just a playground of those born into wealthy families. And also then we can be sure that they didn't have sex with a pig.

No idea what the first bit of your post means. It doesn't make any sense.

But whatever it is, I'm guessing it says nothing about me, because a) I'm not a judgemental dick, and b) I wouldn't dream of defending someone who is into necrophiliac bestiality, especially by suggesting that people who use a particular form of transport are in some way odd and less than human.

IMO you are some weird goady fucker, and as I said earlier, not worth engaging with. Your views are bizarre and little of what you post makes any coherent sense.

In other words, anything can be written about the Conservative leader without an ounce of proof, but if anyone mentions the Labour leader and his fucking motor bike - your gasted gets all flabbered.

Well ain't that par for the incompetent Labour course, where no pig in a poke shit sticks to a red blanket?

If you don't want to engage with me , guess what DON'T ENGAGE with me - rather than try to put words in other mouths so you can than run crying to the mods.

P.S. My views are qualified with facts, if you can't handle the truth, that's your problem.

I think the country would do well to look further afield for its leaders. Basically any one who wants to be in charge patently should not be allowed to do so. Power has been proven to attract sociopathic people as the Tories callous indifference to the sick who have died because their benefits have been stopped/reduced demonstrates. The idea that we recruit our leaders from a sordid little enclave of privileged indecency where initiation rites have a distinct un-British, un-Christian and even satanic flavor is laughable/horrifying. The idea that these people really are the best, in terms of intellect and moral fortitude is truly a damning verdict on us as a country and any time one of these 'elites' hears the national anthem they must need to stick pins in themselves in order to maintain a straight face. Id like to see a state when we were in continual referendum all the time- all citizens voted on every issue, no parties, no leaders, no condensing but just issues and perhaps lobbyists. I know it sounds far fetched but with social media, logistically it would be much easier than the whole going to a polling station thing. Failing that- technocrats appointed by lottery.

Most countries have looked for very bright politicians to formulate policies/laws, especially in a complicated 21st century when the shite hits the fan and unlike in the few years to May 2010, politicians that spent all the money, only knew HOW to spend money, had NOTHING to solve their own problems.

So sat like rabbits in headlights as the annual overspend went up, SAYING they’ll do something about it, but didn’t have the electoral bottle to pull the trigger?

• Who needs politicians ‘of the people’ who, say, substantially ‘privatize’ the NHS via PFI contracts, but blame the other party?

• Who needs a socialist chancellor pretending he could control capitalism and de regulated the UK banks to ‘create’ spending/debt, but then admitted that he did not know the bleedin' obvious - that global banks were connected by the interbank market and that there was risk of global contagion?

• If a relatively thick socialist party that has the money to make a difference then blows all the money on fat, inefficient government – while plotting for a larger a multicultural society WITHOUT building the homes – leaving their indigenous multi cultural population on the jobs/homeless scrap heap, that socialist party who will then needs to cut the benefits of those they forgot, NO LONGER REPRESENTS the people.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/21/labour-to-cut-benefits-bill-2015

Most citizens in Europe who did not have the huge spending stimulus/debt those in the UK had prior to the crash NOW looking for ‘different politics’ to give them a future, can only wish that they had the prospects of citizens in the UK now have under the Conservative administration – which is why many of those Eurozone citizens come here, as our net migration figures still show.

As I’ve said before, with not ONE department ‘fit for purpose after 13-years - no one from Eton got us into the worst financial/social mess in Europe - but they are getting us out.

And only people with their OWN issues, refuse to look at the big picture those abroad see, what has been achieved.

Yes, OP, your thread title is exactly what I thought when I heard.

I understand that Boris left the Bullingdon because he thought they were a bunch of immature drunks, compared to him.

Which sets the bar pretty low.

Oily Dave stayed.

IsIt you responded to an OP. You can't then go around bleating about whether or not people should engage with you. This is a discussion board for chat rather than polemic. Isn't there a "WorldRenownedEconmistsNet' you could join?

Our PM *ed a pig.

I thought the same thing op. Which leaves Teresa to replace Dave. I suspect the press will have other ideas.

GiddyOnZackHunt .... the OP here and elsewhere ignorantly assumes that just because someone had a very good education, they are not fit to run the country.

I in answer to that debate show the FACTS of what this administration HAS achieved, and those for the ALTERNATIVE with shit-for-brains that not only got us in so much trouble, but is apparently the answer and should have another go.

FYI I don't "bleat" if people don't 'engage with me', I don't give a rats tail, I only kick back when people nastily criticise others content for their own political/ideological agenda.

Maybe when someone can defend the previous administrations policies on fucking the poor, or comes up with better ones to fix everything that was left with no money in the coffers, we can have a REAL grown up debate on the alternative - but I shan't hold my breath.

Go to bed.

The OP didnt suggest a good education meant they were unfit to run the country. Isitme- when you say previous administration you mean Thatcher right? The cultural problems she cultivated are like asbestos. The full extent of damage takes time to emerge so is difficult to deal with. As a poor person I had a good time under Blair, I know that. And I can't imagine him ever submitting to orgasmic apogee in the severed head of an animal in some weird initiation rite.

Isitme- when you say previous administration you mean Thatcher right?

I suggest that you read about the 1970's 'good old days’, with the basic rate of income tax around 32%, the higher rate over 60%, income from investments taxed at over 90% - and if any company dare make a profit, Corporate Tax around 50%

The economy was also stacked against businesses, with 20% plus interest rates, inflation and wage spiral, massive industrial unrest costing tens of millions work hours a year, all closing factories – trying to compete with the likes of Germany and Japan with none of those problems.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_man_of_Europe
“Throughout the 1970s, the United Kingdom was sometimes called the "sick man of Europe" by critics of its government at home, because of industrial strife and poor economic performance compared to other European countries,[10] culminating with the Winter of Discontent of 1978–1979.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

In the 70's you could buy a house at a shock 3x yearly income.

In the 70's you could study away from home and not have to depend on wealth of mum and dad.

It weren't that bad. There was punk music... And "Jaws 1" just came out.

In fact you lot growing up in the 70s benefited from all of the social benefits that you are locking up from your children.

You are familiar with Thatcher's Big Bank big bang of 1983 I presume,
You know, the catalyst to all the shit us lot are now dealing with.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_(financial_markets)

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squidz do you mean those times when the interest rates went mad and could be used as a political tool? When the new home owners were panicking and the working class were hung out to dry on inferior cheaper foreign products?
Not such happy daze....

^You are familiar with Thatcher's Big Bank big bang of 1983 I presume,
You know, the catalyst to all the shit us lot are now dealing with.^

squidzin .... you are seriously showing your ignorance, as those reforms had very little to do with the crash, in fact the changes in investment banking back then have brought billions out of poverty and created billions of jobs - the problem here was Brown de regulating the UK banks, he admitted it, the FSA agreed - why have you not yet got the memo?

In 1997 UK bank mortgage lending was £21 bil a year, the cost of an average home £73k.

In late 2007 Uk bank mortgage lending was £115 billion a year, the cost of an average home £232k.

Spot the banking 'bubble' from 1997, and you are blaming Thatcher, pathetic

GiddyOnZackHunt ... despite my showing the pre Thatcher conditions further above, and the history books, you STILL spout socialist old wives tales that everything was Thatcher's fault? Equally pathetic.

Thatcher had to get Labour's industrial/social mess under control, just as Cameron had to get their last mess under control.

There was no government text book on how to get out of a national emergency in 1979 (other than keep printing more money and make inflation worse), nor was there one to get the UK out of the 2007/8 banking/economic crisis in 2010 - so while they may not have got everything right on the road to recovery, they had far more policies/answers than those who handed them the national messes - that could only have got worse as Labour had their fingers up their arses hoping the problems would go away.

Anyone who defends Thatcher is insane. The damage she did still echoes today. Because of her no woman will be PM in my life time. And she inspired robot-froth-bitch Katie Hopkins.

I don't have to 'defend' Mrs Thatcher. I'm a single parent with a daughter who moved up at least one social class by having an independent education and the right attitude. I'm a home-owner with a university education and professional career behind me. At 28, I had no education to speak of and had kicked my husband out. Everything I accomplished (and there was plenty) I did during Mrs (later Baroness) Thatcher's leadership with her as an inspiration and role model. Use your intelligence, work hard, do well. I don't have to defend her - I thank her. Well done, Mrs T, wherever you are, I remember. I remember how it was before, during and after your leadership. Thank you.

Puke all you like. I'm laughing. Me and mine are fine. Where are you?

Oh well, if you and yours are fine, fuck everyone else, eh? It's not like we live in a society or anything, just a country full of individuals who should never have any thought or consideration for others.

Or as the Thatcher said "there is no such thing as Society"