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Good luck to SNP MP Mhairi Black

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claig · 11/05/2015 19:21

She is phenomenal - just 20 years old, SNP MP.

"I'm not the one who should be nervous, the people who are responsible for so much poverty and so much struggle in people's lives, they're the ones who should be nervous becase they're the ones who are going to held accountable for all the damage that they do to people"

Thet are going to shake our usual spinners up. They won't know what hit them. The SNP have some great women MPs - saw some of them on TV over the weekendm a real breath of fresh air - they are going to shake things up and not put up with the bowing and doffing of caps crap.

They don't conform to the traditional profile of our useless lot. This is a bit like the movie "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". I can't remember what happens in that movie though.

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claig · 13/05/2015 17:16

'And the idea that 56 of them are somehow going to sock it to 331 experienced, powerful and mature MP's is one of the funniest things I've read in a looooong time!'

If Farage on his own can sock it to the lot of them, then I think 56 of them may well be able to do so too!

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Sandthefloor · 13/05/2015 17:21

I actually voted for Mhairi Black despite the fact she is a 20 year old with almost no life experience. It was a vote more for the party than the candidate. I have always voted labour, but couldn't bring myself to vote for Ed Milliband as I had absolutely no faith in him. I would never vote conservative so even though I was concerned that she sounds rough ( I can assure you that she certainly doesn't have a middle class accent!!) I took a chance and voted for her anyway. I hope she does well. I am sure she will make more mistakes that will be splashed all over the papers for everyone to pick over. Let's face it she can't be any worse than the PM who despite being more than twice her age still manages regularly be caught out saying things he shouldn't...

Jackieharris · 13/05/2015 17:21

This thread reminds me of that horrible Scottish concept of 'know your place'. It's disgusting to see adults behaving like this.

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 17:23

I have several teacher friends and they're a fair mix of working class and middle class backgrounds.

People could probably look at my daughter and conclude she's not working class due to mine and my husband's current occupations, but the reality is that she couldn't be described as having a background that is anything other than working class.

Sandthefloor · 13/05/2015 17:26

As for being "not terribly bright" she is a student at Glasgow University, and as that is not an easy university to get into she must be brighter than you think.

ArcheryAnnie · 13/05/2015 17:27

Why, Jackie?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 13/05/2015 17:29

It's not about people knowing their place. It's about recognising that the job of MP is not the kind that you're equipped to do at 20. I think that there is a real risk that, now she has become so high profile, she will not be able to make her early mistakes quietly. She will make them as an MP, so there is a much greater chance that a youthful issue you could brush off as a 30 year old will be a take down when it happens whilst she's an MP.

Although actually I do take the point made further up that a lot of people will go to their MSP since many problems are with devolved issues.

funnyossity · 13/05/2015 17:29

This reminds me of my University friend introducing her new boyfriend to me as someone who I'd get on with 'cos his grandad was a miner. Grin

BitOutOfPractice · 13/05/2015 17:30

Gosh OP I haven't read such breathless fandom outside of my DD's bedroom before? Are you her mom? Grin

ShellyBoobs · 13/05/2015 17:31

Bit of an odd post, Jackie.

I think there's been a lot of positivity towards Mhairi in this thread.

Obviously her credentials are going to be questioned; she's been elected to represent people in parliament.

Jackieharris · 13/05/2015 17:33

Because she is being criticised for not 'knowing her place' and staying a good quiet pleb who leaves the 'proper' work to the big boys old grey men.

I remember my gps being like that. Looking down on anyone who tried to get on in life rather than trying to fight the system that keeps people stuck in their little boxes of age, class, gender.

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claig · 13/05/2015 17:33

'Are you her mom?'

Nope, just an astute observer of the political scene!

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frankie80 · 13/05/2015 17:34

Totally shocked that mhairi black is being compared to Malala!!!!

Malala for starters expresses her beliefs in a much more mature way than Mhairi and her fellow Nationalists.

Mhairi is immature, age and internet behaviour demonstrate this. Her personal presentation is poor - she always looks scruffy.

The SNP could have put monkeys up in every seat and they would have won.

MagentaVitus · 13/05/2015 17:36

Me too Frankie Shock

It's an insult to Malala quite frankly!

Weebirdie · 13/05/2015 17:37

*Totally shocked that mhairi black is being compared to Malala!!!!

Malala for starters expresses her beliefs in a much more mature way than Mhairi and her fellow Nationalists.

Mhairi is immature, age and internet behaviour demonstrate this. Her personal presentation is poor - she always looks scruffy.*

Spot on.

Jackieharris · 13/05/2015 17:39

No great change from the decades of labour putting a red rosette on any old monkey and getting them elected then?

No one can surely assert they were all their on merit? Brian Donohoe? Gemma Doyle?

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 17:39

Who gives a hoot about her personal presentation. It bears no relation to ability.

BitOutOfPractice · 13/05/2015 17:39

Oh crikey claig it's you!

I'd say gushing would be a more apt adjective in this case!

Roseformeplease · 13/05/2015 17:40

astute. Hmm

Jackieharris · 13/05/2015 17:41

Is there any female politican anywhere who doesn't get criticised for her appearance?

On a thread about MB's 'immaturity' there are lots of immature comments!

MagentaVitus · 13/05/2015 17:42

Who gives a hoot about her personal presentation. It bears no relation to ability.

Many, many workplaces would disagree. A public facing role like a seat in the commons is one of them, I'd argue.

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claig · 13/05/2015 17:43

But what about Boris Johnson's appearance and Michael Foot's?

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bamboostalks · 13/05/2015 17:43

I thinks it's indicative of the poor understanding of the needs and circumstances of working class people that people on here are so delusional that they are describing children of teachers as having a working class background.

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 17:44

Agree Jackie. There are some people questioning whether she's going to have the maturity and skills to carry out her role, which is fair enough.

On the other, she's being criticised for her appearance, her background, her age, her language, and what she said on twitter two or three years ago. And half of it is coming across as nothing more than snobbery, along with a lack of understanding about what actually constitutes a normal teenager where Mhairi is from.

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 17:46

I think the delusion seems to be arising in a confusion between working class and poor.

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