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A Labour Governments 1997-2010 record in power – lest we forget.

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Isitmebut · 02/05/2015 21:26

Ed Miliband says today the Conservatives are using the SNP to deflect from Labour’s record in office.

When coming to power in 1997 with over a 160 seat majority, the UK economy was the fastest growing economy in Europe, it had grown for over 20 consecutive quarters and was budgeted balance our tax/spend budget by 2001/2 and we had the best financed private pensions in Europe.

Here is a summary of the Labour policies that followed within their first 10-years, probably the best decade in a century to mould UK society for the better, flush with the once in a century tax receipts of a financial bubble/windfall; YOU decide who ruined the life choices of the poorest in society.

Economy; Ballooned the size/cost of the State, as the private sector (businesses) like Manufacturing suffered, relying too much on the deregulated growth of City profits & taxes = an unbalanced economy likely to crash on the first major economic recession, or worst still, a financial recession leading to an economic one.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214001/The-cost-quango-Britain-hits-170bn--seven-fold-rise-Labour-came-power.html

Finances; In 19996/7 the National Debt was £403 billion, by 2009/10 it was £1,073 trillion, as the UK were running a deficit/overspend economy in the good times, so when the private sector tax receipts fell away in 2008, the States costs over 50% of our economy, and without tax receipts to pay for it all = £157 billion annual budget deficit/overspend passed to the coalition, the largest figure by far in Europe. The only way the accumulating National Debt could then be reduced, would have been for the Coalition to start slash spending by that amount, from Day One.
www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

Banking; Labour lighter regulatory approach encouraged UK banks to leverage up their balance sheets to business/consumer loans and mortgages multiplied from 1997, building an economy on asset price rises and private (and government) debt. Once the financial crash began, the closing of the global interbank market (the funding artery of finance) from 2008 - morphed into an economic recession, the worst in the UK for over 80-years.
metro.co.uk/2011/04/11/gordon-brown-i-made-big-mistake-on-banks-before-financial-crisis-650630/

www.theguardian.com/business/2011/dec/12/labour-regulations-city-rbs-collapse

Pensions; A terrible record from their first year in power, offering derisory increases in the State pension (75p in 2000) with much higher inflation than now, and a raid on Private Pensions, previously the best funded in Europe, that was to kill many company Final Salary schemes – and estimated to have cost, in lost returns to non government pension plans, over £260 billion to date.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2613609/Revealed-Labours-stealth-raid-took-118BILLION-pensions-paving-way-end-final-salary-schemes-suddenly-unaffordable.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/10698432/Final-salary-pensions-10-times-more-common-in-public-sector.html

Defence; A government in perpetual wars, who took us to war in Iraqi on a ‘dodgy dossier’ on Iraqi WMD’s and sent troops into Afghanistan without enough equipment i.e. bullet proof vests, roadside bomb proof vehicles and helicopters, which cost lives - with the Defence Secretary saying ‘ they might not fire a shot’. With no defence reviews for years, they left power with a defence £38 bil black hole, without a penny down on Trident.

NHS; With the proceeds of the financial bubble Labour more than doubled spending, but only around 30% got to the front line, and hid bad care e.g. Mid Staffs. In 2000 the NHS Act brought in private competition, the excessive government borrowing via the Private Finance Initiative (PFI) was to cripple NHS Trust budgets for decades to come and by 2010 there was to be 13,000 fewer general and acute beds than in 1999 – as our net population grew from economic migration and ‘baby boomers’ got 13-years closer to retirement age.
www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8779598/Private-Finance-Initiative-where-did-all-go-wrong.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9356942/Blair-defends-PFI-as-NHS-trusts-face-bankruptcy.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2363808/Labours-NHS-denial-machine-Experts-verdict-ministers-covered-problems-failing-hospitals-thousands-died.html

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ThisFenceIsComfy · 03/05/2015 00:08

Look, I'm sure you think you're doing a good job here but you are coming across as a bit unhinged.

I'm also not sure why you are condemning Labour for only wanting to KEEP THE CONSERVATIVES OUT yet have posted some weird monologue only about the Labour party. Pot, kettle?

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:10

TondelayoScwarzkopf .... To get the facts straight, the Conservatives first used PFI.

Labour without a business brain cell between them, were totally legged over by the Private Sector in PFI negotiations; maybe Labour used their ex postman or ex ships bar steward in cabinet to run the slide rule over, or as taxpayers money, thought 'who gives a feck' I might get donations or a job after politics - as so many left in 2010. lol

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 03/05/2015 00:11

How many business brain cells does the ex PR manager of Carlton TV have?

GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:13

Oh where's your telegraph link to explains why Gordon Brown was right to sell the gold? Staving off a worse global crisis. Doesn't fit your polemic does it?
Claig has born all kippers but actually I think I preferred claig!

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:13

P.S. It is one thing encouraging the Private Sector to provide Tax receipts, but a different ball of wax getting them to run public services - but that needs brains, hopefully from Eton, as no one from Eton got the UK into that pre may 2010 dung heap.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:14

Your credentials oh internet random are? A subscription to the Telegraph and ...

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 03/05/2015 00:14

In your first post PFI is a disaster (I agree) wrought by the labour govt but it's actually a Tory policy.

Stick to your story love.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:16

Actually don't answer my question. I CBA to read your shouty stuff and spin

ThisFenceIsComfy · 03/05/2015 00:16

I know Giddy.

Claig, Claig, you there?

Come talk to me about the Establishment please.

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:17

GiddyOnZackHunt ... Brown sold the gold in 1997/8, without mentioning it before the 1997, the bank crisis was 10-years later.

No wonder you luv Claig, as about as long of facts as you.

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 03/05/2015 00:18

Do you wish you went to Eton OP? Hmm

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:19

P.S. Brown's deregulating the UK banks made our bank crisis/recession/recovery worse, as who else had to nationalize their banks back then?

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:19

So now you see how the paper thin ESTABLISHMENT are fooling you all. Don't listen to false prophets quoting the media establishment! Come Thursday you will see the new order.

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:20

Deflections, deflections, deflections ....look at you own record and LEARN.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:21

My record? I pick Shipbuilding.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 03/05/2015 00:22

The Tories would NEVER deregulate the banking sect...,,

Sorry I just choked up a kidney.

ThisFenceIsComfy · 03/05/2015 00:23

Tondelayo Grin

TendonQueen · 03/05/2015 00:23

Hello! Is this the strategy for the last few days, then? That and putting Boris on standby, of course.

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:24

I'm 'attacked', I respond, so I'm "unhinged"? Guffaw.

Funs over folks, I'm off to see the Paper Review, pass bile amongst yourselves.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:24

Oh Tondeleyo - can we privatise your kidney? Grin

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 03/05/2015 00:25

Paper round? Ah that explains it

ThisFenceIsComfy · 03/05/2015 00:26

Yes, your writing style makes you sound a bit odd. I cannot fathom why you need to write such a dreary monologue just slagging off another party.

Just start a thread backing up Tory policy rather than resorting to this.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:28

Five responses later and you run off citing attacks? If you can't stand the heat sweetie...

Isitmebut · 03/05/2015 00:29

One last post ...re The Tories would NEVER deregulate the banking sect...,,

They didn't, Brown did, he took away sole powers with the BoE and formed a regulatory tripartite of the BoE, Treasury and newly formed FSA mentioned in the link of my OP, saying they were leaned on to regulate 'lite'.

Unless you can see (and prove) the Conservative were going to form a new tripartite (where Brown controlled two of the three), Labour HAVE TO OWN THE POLICY and consequencies.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 03/05/2015 00:29

TheFence yes. OP doesn't get debate!