The Green Party

[eileenrose1]

The Green Party's leader Nathalie Bennett gave a poor radio interview but was brave enough to admit it and apologise. She came back well on this week's Any Questions - and on her Radio 4 profile.

The Green Party has a good record of promoting strong women like Nathalie and Caroline Lucas and my town of Wolverhampton will have female candidates in all three constituences at the General Election, depending on funding. Any support would be much appreciated. Please visit the following link and forward it to others to give us the chance to vote Green. Thanks.

www.crowdfunder.co.uk/wton-green-party-2015-elections-fundraising/

I'm sure you will do very well, eileenrose, if this is your technique on the doorstep.

I'm out.

Ah, yes, a "little clique". Describing women talking about politics as "shouty". (I'm kind of impressed you refrained from "shrill", but perhaps you will manage it yet.) Perhaps we'd be better off keeping quiet, eh? You aren't changing my opinion of you or your politics at all, VoyageofDad.

You don't get it - women are concerned about attitudes like your because they want to like the Green Party. I wouldn't ever start a "Tories and prostitution" thread because I won't ever consider voting Tory, so their views on prostitution won't affect the way I vote.

The environment is a big issue for me, too. So are my rights to be seen as a person.

I made it abundantly clear that your concerns are perfectly valid and had no problem at you expressing them,

You have no problem with us expressing views at all, no. So much that you turned up on a thread where you contributed nothing positive, to tell off a group of women discussing policy amongst themselves. You have no problem with us expressing views, except you are going to dismiss us as "shouty", because we have expressed them, and because we aren't being good little girls and discussing what you, oh mighty man, decide we ought to prioritise.

Who, exactly is trying to silence who, here, VoyageofDad?

And my "world view" includes seeing women as people who have every right to discuss policies as to how it affects them. If that isn't in the Green's world view, then that's all I need to know.

Well done you! Gold star political campaigning there!

I understand your frustration, VoyageOfDad. Annie seems very angry and I've found her unreasonable hostility towards me quite upsetting. Let's hope her obsession doesn't put anyone off voting Green - the party that supports women far more than any other.

You do know what gas lighting is I assume?

Yes, it's what you are trying to do to me.

Annie seems very angry
...her unreasonable hostility
...her obsession

Jesus, you can't even be original in your insults. You do know that painting women who raise issues of women's rights as "angry", "hostile" and "obsessive" is the oldest anti-feminist trick in the book, right?

I'm going to hide this thread. I have been asking questions and raising issues because I was interested in the Greens and they were very high on my list of policies and people I liked. Some of the women who are the public face of the Greens are excellent. But if you two are typical examples of Green party activists - can't countenance any sort of reasonable discussion of your policies without assuming hostile intent - then good god, I will stay away. You've created what you have described - I am now hostile to what you two stand for. Well done, you prime pair of political geniuses.

I've been put off the greens for exactly the same reason, I won't support a party that wants to legalise pimping.

I've followed numerous discussions in numerous arena, and it's often said how democratic the greens are, how why not try changing their view etc. Yet any green I've heard speak about their policies does the same dismissive sweeping aside I see on this thread too. I initially thought it was just an anomaly, I mean the greens they're gonna be pretty right on, listening, understanding of issues etc., surely. But no, every time it's the same dismissive attitude which makes me think there really is something more rotten going on here.

Was just reading the breast feeding policy too, which also seems muddled. Breast feeding is to be normalised, great. And private areas are going to be created for women to breast feed in. Eh? How is that normalising? That's pretty similar to Nigel farage telling us to sit in a corner.

Their manifesto is bonkers and unrealistic!

Free care of the elderly. What for everyone? Wales has capped care costs at home, no more than £60 per week and it is unaffordable for the local councils!

Of course, they could run the country as successfully as they run Brighton - which is a bally mess

From the manifesto - cloud cookoo land (and mainly illegal under EU law):

The NMA will be mandated by law to manage the stock of national currency so that it is sufficient to support full employment, while avoiding general inflation in prices, and taking into account the development of local currencies

A Green government would work in Europe and globally to re-establish controls on international capital movements, in order to restore financial stability and regain control over the macro- economy.

Corporation Tax will continue to be levied on the net profits earned by companies. These will be banded, with higher rates payable by larger companies in order to encourage smaller businesses.

'Wasn't that long ago that most people though climate change was bonkers and the solutions unrealistic. Still are people like that.'

Their numbers are increasing.

The main parties are bonkers, but the Greens are more so.

There's only one party that speaks common sense. No need to name them, everybody knows who they are.

You seem to think it is EDL, but as far as I know, they have disbanded. It's not EDL, they ae not even a party, they have no candidates.

Why, UKIP of course.

'a Ukip government would immediately repeal the Climate Change Act '

www.edie.net/news/6/UKIP-climate-change-act-roger-helmer/

It's no laughing mater. Luvvies from Labour passed it and the people will have to pay for it until UKIP repeals it.

"MPs have no idea what the Climate Change Act means

They passed it almost unanimously, but MPs still can't grasp the consequences of the most expensive legislation in British history
...
MPs have no idea what the Climate Change Act means

They passed it almost unanimously, but MPs still can't grasp the consequences of the most expensive legislation in British history"

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9416805/MPs-have-no-idea-what-the-Climate-Change-Act-means.html

"The point about the Climate Change Act – which, according to the Government’s own figures, will cost us up to £18 billion every year until 2050 – is that it sets a target which cannot be achieved without our country committing economic suicide. "

"In the short term, a Green administration would impose a string of new taxes, ramp up public spending to unprecedented levels and decriminalise drugs, brothels and membership of terrorist groups.

In the long term, they want to fundamentally change life as we know it.

ZERO GROWTH ECONOMY

Critics call the party’s adherents “watermelons” – green on the outside, deepest red on the inside.

It’s not quite right.

Karl Marx and his pupils championed economic growth and personal consumption: five year plans, tractor factories and fridges for all. The row, for them, was whether the planned economy was a stronger engine than the free market.

The Greens want something very different.

Caroline Lucas and colleagues regard economic growth as incompatible with protecting the planet and a fulfilling personal life."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/green-party/11356354/Drugs-brothels-al-Qaeda-and-the-Beyonce-tax-the-Green-Party-plan-for-Britain.html

Hell will freeze over before I vote for them.