Has political apathy eroded our freedoms?

[mam29]

Been giving this some serious thought recently.

I know lots people feel disconnected with politics that they all same.

But i have interest in politics, not sure who i support next election.

Im well educated read papers, watch variety of news

daily politics, this week, question time.

mostly buy the independent as the media bias annoys me.

but 2 bills have been passed that I diden't agree with

no right of appeal until 2 years employment

school holidays 10 days discretion.

seems not until its passed and live do people get wound up,

its too late now

I am strongly against increasing ratio preschool, ranking 5 and 11 year olds and new childcare policy but feel bit powerless.

how did these slip through and no one notice?

makes me wonder what else they done or doing that never gets highlighted until too late.

The media only highlight what they want to often with mistakes or bias.

[Wannabestepfordwife]

It's more the fact my dad used to make us go to high gate cemetery every year- Marx's grave isn't much fun when your 6 lol. Put me off ever reading his works

[MiniTheMinx]

Why, he's dead, far better to read what he had to say when he was alive.

[Wannabestepfordwife]

I'll give it a go mini

claig I see your point with ukip I see their appeal and I definitely think the current three party system needs mixing up a bit.

What I would really like to see is a leader encouraging the aspirations of the average person eg making it easier to set up your own business

[TheArticFunky]

I have always been interested in politics and depressed by political apathy however it gets to a point when you feel like banging your head against the wall. Recently I was discussing with friends that it was concerning how our employment rights were being chipped away and they looked at me blankly they had absolutely no idea what I was talking about. My friends are educated people and yet they close their ears to any talk of politics even issues that concern them directly.

I'm in a dilemma I usually vote Labour apart from a period of voting Lib Dem in my early years. I don't think I can vote Labour at the next election. Ed Miliband started off so promising but I'm increasing thinking that he hasn't got a clue. What was all that rubbish about employers having to recruit apprentices if they recruit someone from outside the EEU? I think Apprenticeships are the way forward and should be championed all the way not used as a punishment! There is also strict criteria to fulfil when recruiting someone from outside Europe. This proposal sounds like something I would expect from UKIP.

In answer to the OP's question YANBU and I agree with you. However it really isn't surprising and I think it won't be long before I join the ranks of political apathy myself.

[farrowandbawl]

I agree and am guilty of it myself.

It's not a lot but I do watch it and read about it. I sign petitions on things I don't agree with and email my MP...and this is where it falls flat.

If my own MP can't be bothered to reply to emails or phone calls, then I don't see the point. It does, if anything, reinforce my opinion that they really, don't give a shit until it's election time and they want your vote.

[MiniTheMinx]

Wannabestepfordwife If you decide to read Capital this is really good to follow davidharvey.org/ it is an online course. It makes Marx simple (did I just say that everything up to chapter 3 is a bit hard going because of the way in which Marx constructs his argument about where value comes from. If you get past chapter two it gets easier.

And I agree with you I would like to see support for small businesses. Part of the problem is the fact that banks favour large corporates. They basically facilitate monopoly because it protects their own interests.

[Spinflight]

Elected scumbag politicians just count your votes and discount your views, apathy is a natural reaction to this.

I'd say it certainly has damaged our rights and freedoms, if you look at the ancient freedoms set out against the absolute power of Kings ( who early on were genuinely foreign or in the control of the Pope) there isn't much, if anything left..

The first clause of Magna Carta required the church to be free, now whether you agree or disagree with gay marriage it is clear that the Church was not free to make it's own decision.

Equality under the law? There isn't even a pretence at it. Our elected scumbags decide to censor the press, with the help of celebrities, purely to prevent anything embarrassing about themselves or their rabid lifestyles leaking out. If you were shot in the back of the head whilst walking down the street it would be newsworthy but do you honestly think there would be hundreds of police on the case full time for months or a year? If you work at the BBC and are a known face then your chances of Justice appear higher..

Luckily for us both the blue scumbags and the red scumbags agree that our under 25s are too feckless and need to have their entitlement to benefits removed. So because they don't vote in great numbers their birthright can be taken away whilst the scumbags vote themselves an 11% payrise? Under 25 is clearly less equal under the law of the land, and these are the very same kids praised for their record breaking exam results, year after year after year....

How does habeus Corpus translate to 42 days without being charged? In the aftermath of the 7/7 bombings we are all guilty of allowing the scumbags to target and victimise a small section of the community.

Tony Benn was a lone dissenting voice.

You hear the rumblings about trial by jury being too expensive... Don't convict enough... Trial by judge soon rather than by your peers.

Evict foreign 'terror suspects' from the country even if it makes them stateless? Not even the King's of old had such powers yet we hand them over to Theresa May!... I suspect one becomes a terror suspect merely by disagreeing with whatever the westmintser bubble thinks eventually.

And all the time they snoop, allow the Americans to snoop and record everything.

Well here you go... Supposedly our constitution...

www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Edw1cc1929/25/9/contents

"There are currently no known outstanding effects for the Magna Carta (1297)"