All you poor people are lazy

[SunWukong]

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So here is the Tories proving what we all ready know, that are fools who think the poor are that way because they are lazy, unlike them.

breads post makes some fantastic points.

I'm in the position now where the fact that I've had to take on a job in a new role next year means we will be much worse off each year. If I were to give up work altogether my degree would be funded, my tax credits would return & we would be much better off. I live life without luxuries, clothes are second hand or Primark etc etc. it's a simple & blindingly obvious fact that the Tories are increasing the gap between classes constantly.
I have no idea how to get out of this trap. How will my dcs ever afford uni? Ah, of course- they won't be able to, thus their employment will be limited, keeping them poor, as the Tories wish.

Vaginald, DS (16) is giving serious consideration to applying to our local Uni (where I'm currently a student) because he will be able to save himself at least £20,000 in rent and living expenses over 3 years if he lives at home with us.

Tuition fees are going to to £9k from September however - and this is a University currently ranked 75th in the UK league tables . So much for market forces keeping costs under £9k for most courses eh?

Exactly! And "higher education free at the point of delivery"... Who do they think they are kidding?!

Lapsed, the idea of 'market forces' applying in 2012 was clearly BS because there IS no market. Universities were desperate not to be seen as 'substandard' and selling 'cheap' degrees. The situation may change in future years but that is no consolation to the current intake, whom I worry a lot for.

As a lecturer I also worry for myself as they think they are buying me as a sort of 24 hour education-bot already. They all expect spoonfeeding and to be told what is coming up on exam papers, because they've paid so much for it! And any low marks are a source of outrage against the marker rather than self-questioning. The fact is it's the same old courses and same old knackered staff as last year, only the government isn't paying for any of it, so they have to, poor sods. Sigh.

As a Very Mature Undergraduate (51) I am constantly shocked by the attitudes some of my young fellow students and I don't just mean their spelling. One lass in particular has missed entire modules ("so boring!") but thinks because she is paying she is "entitled" to pass, just like at boarding school where her abysmal 'A' level results were the source of much (misdirected) parental resentment:

"We pay £26k per year so why isn't she getting A grades???? "

What an awful attitude they have!!! Thankfully haven't encountered any undergrads with this outlook, what an odd approach!!!

Most of them are lovely and work very hard. We live in a very expensive city, so most have to work part-time in order to pay rent AND eat during term-time.

yes Lapsed it is quite shocking. Not to mention the waste of public and personal money it represents, because these students usually don't pass or get poor degrees (obviously).

I have had students fail to attend my entire module then email me at the end of the course asking to see me to 'catch up'. The answer is usually that I am not a private tutor and they will need to find another one.

I agree that it's very hard on the good ones who have to have part time jobs, usually more than one, just to eat!

My son did his first year of uni this past, erm, year. One of his first comments to me was how much he loved that he was finally having to think for himself after so many years of being spoonfed correct answers so tests and exams could be passed.

How things have changed since I was at school! At least nowadays they have Google. :o

Im poor and far from lazy, I have 3 children, my son has just finished college and is working 9 hour days on a farm, oh by the way I work, Daughter doing A levels and working in a pasty shop, 14 yo not yet working but come next summer will be. OK we don't earn much scraping by, please don't think that poor means uneducated.

LP on MPs, whilst some of that may be true Cameron's chidlren go to state schools (so not true all Tories use private schools) and he had extensive use of the NHS with his disabled son before he died.

I would certanily prefer MPs to be over 40 and to have mostly had business or other working lives before then not in politics as much of what they have to handle is business and money and the economy and business law and also because you need experience of life and chidlren which you tend not to get until you turn 40. Millibands (career family od MPs only) and the working lives of some Tory MPs too which is just interns in political parties etc is not a good background for it.

agree that MPS should have experience definitley outside politics but also outside the public sector/academia.

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/aug/21/councils-invest-food-banks-welfare-cuts