Guardian on Bilderberg

[claig]

What is the world coming to? The Guardian has caught up and sends reprorter to Bilderberg meeting. Whatever next? Will they catch up and tell us that global warming is a con? They can't ignore it any longer, when no one believes them any longer, they will have to change tack.

I have always thought that the Euro crisis was planned and it will all be settled when EU governments hand over sovereignty to a closer political union. People suffer for the sake of the Project, but in the end the Euro will end up stronger.

'out of the struggle will come a new strength'
sounds like 'ordo ab chao', the Hegeklian dialectic, as the non-mainstream conspiracy theorists said all along.

'Clarke's most telling remark is that: "It's going to take a crisis, an absolute crisis, to make Europe's leaders act." This week's Economist magazine agrees: "For the past six decades, steps forward to greater European union have taken place at moments of incipient crisis."

"A consensus is slowly emerging that, whether a Greek exit is to be averted or weathered, there will have to be a greater level of integration in the euro zone, with tighter constraints on the freedom of national governments."

This message, that out of the struggle will come a new strength, seems to be the Bilderbergian line. For example, EU Commissioner Joaquin Almunia (whom we spotted at Bilderberg 2010) says we need now to "reinforce the European Parliament's role" which "will also strengthen the role of the [EU] Commission". So his solution to the crisis: "I need a bigger office."

The Economist says that if the "elite venture" of Europe is to survive and thrive, "Europe's elites" have got their work cut out. It ventures to give the elites some "unashamedly technocratic" advice on how to forge their closer union, but it needn't worry, the technocrats of Bilderberg seems to have the matter in hand. Mario Monti (unelected Italian PM, Bilderberg steering committee) said this week: "Europe can have euro bonds soon."

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/30/bilderberg-2012-technocrats-are-rising?INTCMP=SRCH

The Independent is on the case as well

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/conspiracy-theorists-join-the-worlds-elite-7813516.html

The Guardian reports on the conspiracy theorists and non-mainstream media

'It's a kind of live interactive news documentary history wildlife show, a roar of protest from the lion's den, and everyone feels a part of it. The wall between people and events ? that dusty old safety barrier between the news and its consumers ? it's tumbling down around Bilderberg.

This the working media. They're out here, in the Virginia sun, working hard. Livestreaming, uploading, swapping data, checking audio feeds ? in short, reporting the news. And why? Short answer: because CNN isn't.

To be fair to the dinosaurs, this year saw an actual proper mainstream journalist turn up to Bilderberg: the Washington Times sent Ben Wolfgang, who wrote an extremely decent piece ? so there you go'

www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/jun/01/bilderberg-2012-chantilly-occupy?newsfeed=true

The Guardian ends with

'Pour yourself a drink, and let's talk about the transnational machinations of the technocratic banking elite. You might want to sit down, this is going to take a while. It all starts with Plato?'

and Plato is where communism and the elite's control of the masses all stems from.

Yes, I read the Guardian stuff. Sweet that they don't see themselves as 'actual proper mainstream journalists' isn't it?

But good they're following it up.

Reading list of attendees is interesting. Clear that women basically don't exist in high finance circles. Explains a lot.

Little boys playing at world domination.

Yes, the Guardian had an article about teh 'Bilderbabes'. But there are few of them.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/jun/01/bilderberg-2012-chantilly-occupy1

But, I agree, good on the Guardian for reporting on it. Quite a few of the comments thank the Guardian for covering it. But one comment says it wasn't in the paper, only online. Don't know if that is the case.

That would be very poor.

Shame is it barely touches on the Bilderberg lot and mainly focuses on those watching them - the citizen journalists.

Looking at the list of attendees I found Kodmani, BassmaMember of the Executive Bureau and Head of Foreign Affairs, Syrian National Council

This is absolutely sickening and the mainstream press should be covering Bilderberg and they need to but then again how many top media people and people who have ownership through shareholding of the media will actually be prepared to report on it. The piece is very light on content as well.

Conspiracy theories about Bilderberg seem all the more ludicrous when the world is in such a mess. Can any right-minded person really believe that financial/economic meltdown and the massive uncertainty about what happens next are favourable to government and business leaders? To suggest it was all "planned", especially the euro crisis, is pure fantasy.

And Mini I'm interested to know why it's "sickening" that a representative of the Syrian opposition is going to be there. Don't you think it's important that the other participants get a better sense of the scale of the biggest international political/security crisis happening right now?

If the people of Syria want to rise up against their government, I'm all for that but this is about money, pure and simple. Where you have a conference of bankers and world leaders, the arms industry and the Syrian National Council you can expect an announcement any time soon that we will be helping to arm the resistance. Why? because those bankers and arms dealers will be making money on long term loan agreements.

Do you think these same world leaders would help all resistance to all regimes around the world, what about arming the Palestinians. Would that be profitable? How do you think scameron and co would react if we all took to the streets in violent protest, our government would use everything at it's disposal on us, so is Assad any worse? no. It's hypocrisy and it's all about money.

jkklpu - on the contrary - the elite have been doing v nicely out of the crisis - had you not noticed? Rich list lot all up. it's the 99% that have been shafted - with excuses of austerity, paying down deficits etc.

Are journalists actually in on the important meetings.I didnt think they were.
So reporting is bound to be light.

jkklpu, a crisis for the people is an opportunity for the elites. Every cloud for the people has a silver and gold lining for the elites.

How else would they be able to increase retirement age, cut benefits and the welfare state, cut pensions for teachers, doctors and civil servants, without a 'crisis', without 'austerity'?

Do you really think that all these regulators (with the 'light touch' regulation) didn't have a clue about the state of the banks etc., when valiant old Vince Cable was warning of the risks? Do you really think they couldn't have bailed out Lehmans for a tiny fraction of what they have taken from the public purse to bail out the banks and pay their bonuses and to bail out Europe, which is in crisis due to the state of the banks?

'This week's Economist magazine agrees: "For the past six decades, steps forward to greater European union have taken place at moments of incipient crisis."

how else would they be able to convince the peoples of Europe of the virtues of closer union and the consequent loss of sovereignty?

'The Economist says that if the "elite venture" of Europe is to survive and thrive, "Europe's elites" have got their work cut out. It ventures to give the elites some "unashamedly technocratic" advice on how to forge their closer union'

Do you think that the elite won't get exactly what they want? Do you think they need the Economist's advice on how to 'forge their closer union'? They already have it planned, they already know the outcome.

The Guardian tells us that Mandelson and Ken Clarke are there - both in favour of Europe. The Guardian doesn't mention any invites for Eurosceptics. That's because they are not part of the plan. Their voice won't figure in the future of what the Economist calls the "elite venture".

Mandelson knows what he is talking about. He is on the inside, he gets invites.

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/may/03/peter-mandelson-eu-referendum-labour

Mandelson says we will need a referendum. Do you think he believes that the people will vote against Europe? I don't. Just as the Irish voted for the fiscal compact, I think he is sure that a referendum won't go against the venture.

With enough austerity, the elite can make a turkey vote for Christmas.

There's a massive assumption behind lots of these posts that the "elite" have common interests. Yet can you really say that Ken Clarke, the CEO of Unilever, the Premier of Alberta and a hedge fund boss are in on a global domination project? Yes, some people/businesses make money when others lose, and there have been some big winners. But the idea that all our governments are in cahoots with some kind of cunning carefully crafted plan that's going smoothly is just laughable. Have you looked at the DowJones, FTSE100, DAX, Nikkei, etc indices lately? Big banks and big business and the 1% also lose when stocks are tanking; the prospect of Spanish/other European banks collapsing is bad for most of them, too.

Btw, I'm sure that Lord Mandelson would love the idea that, out of government and with a Eurosceptic in No10, he was still on the "inside".

It is interesting thanks for the link.

amillion, no they can not report from inside the meetings.
Do I think Governments are in cahoots with big business, yes I do, I agree with claig but it's businesses (or rather uber wealthy bankers and shareholders) that are in the driving seat. The politicians are just their puppets.

I agree with Mini
Hope people dont mind if I ask another maybe stupid question
Wasnt Mrs Thatcher there at the meetings,at least 1,in the 1980s?

Claig. Every cloud does have a silver lining. The problems we have now have with the Euro brings ever closer a referendum on our membership of the EU!

Yes, ironman. I think I heard David Owen calling for a referendum on the news today.

Micheal Noonan, Irish Minister for Finance was an attendee.