BBC bias. Boris 51.5%: "tight margin". Hollande 51.7%: "clear victory"

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The left-wing propoganda spouted by the BBC really is relentless.

I am disappointed that they got off with a cash freeze in the licence fee. A 75% cut would have been far more appropriate.

Solopower

It matters because this is a particular cultural problem in a small number of communities. Brendan O'Neill's article in the Telegraph does a good job on this particular issue:

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100157120/muslims-sex-gangs-and-white-working-class-women/

NovacknGood

You do know that UKIP campaigns to leave the EU? The UK isn't independent because it's run from Brussels. That was originally the whole point of UKIP although it's become a political party instead of just a protest group.

As for your assertion afterwards that all ideas from the 'Left' are good, I think that a quick glimpse at the brutal legacy of socialism across half the world is in order.

UK is run by it's sovereign parliament. It is the sovereign UK parliament that decides how to implement and how ti chooses to enforce the laws that are passed in Brussels, not Brussels

e'g' Uk police have always been very strict about wearing a helmet on a motorcycle or moped. Spanish Police only recently started to enforce the wring of a helmet on a moped or motorcycle. Up until the last few years they only enforced that law for maybe a week a year and wouldn't bat an eyelid as you drove past without helmet.

Brussels sets the norms for the common market and therefore of course it has to deal with unfair competition across the EEC. But the UKIP generally lump all EU rules into one bucket t suit their agenda. FACT is UKIP are an irrelevant little party whoa e being taken for a ride by their leaders supping up the EU gravy train whilst socialising with Ultra-right wing fascist groups.

The nationality of the cast majority of these men is British.

Khat is legal in Great Britain. So are Batteries for manpads. If the US want a citizen they are free to come and ask for extradition. They haven't regarding khat so non story.

The EEC doesn't exist. It stopped existing in 1992 when the Maastricht treaty was signed.

Parliament isn't Sovereign when it can't pass laws in certain areas. When the EU takes over an area (called, ironically, a 'competence') the right to pass laws moves from the nation state to the European Commission (unelected), which drafts the laws that the Parliament votes on. There are areas where the EU has sole control and areas where member states have to agree on a policy between them but that policy isn't dictated by the EU.

These areas include agriculture and fisheries, where the UK hasn't had a right to set rules on (for example) pesticides or net sizes or fishing quotas for decades. Trade is another one. So is employment where the EU's social policy effectively specifies who can work where. The environment, transport, and 'human rights' are three more examples of 'competencies'.

If the UK wishes to pass a law on, for example, net size, it has to ask its Commissioner to propose legislation which the Commission votes on or vetoes and, if it makes it out of the Commission, it goes to Parliament.

So if you consider a parliament sovereign when it has no power over all those things, then yes, it is 'sovereign'. I don't consider that sovereign.

And what you call a 'FACT' is, in fact, an opinion.

The UK deliberately choose to pass fishing, farming policy to EU. It was Winston Churchill's idea to set up the court of Human rights so what is wrong with that now

flatpack you are obviously just a tin foil hat wearing right winger like Faaaraaaaggeeeeee A man who is often spouting conspiracy nonsense on conspiracy radio stations like Alex Jones in the USA. One day you will realise that they are only in it to make millions from spouting that kind of nonsense because people like you buy into it and buy their books and allow then so sell millions in advertisements towards you.

Now go off and watch some fox news for a new story of impeding world doom then come back. And adjust your tin foil hat.

And just so you know EEC is EC is EU it's all the same. FACT.

As for those thinking the Daily Fail does not show any kind of bias in it's reporting please note in todays news how they covered the story that Bishop Mitt Romney and his admission he did some gay bashing as a school kid.

The headline is as follows....US Republican Presidential candidate forced to apologize 'for holding down gay taunt classmate and chopping off his hair' during school 'attack'

Note no mention of Mitt Romney by name instead an overly liong headline to distract readers from bothering because that's american news and Daily Fail is A US paper.

Same news paper on the same day this time covering the story that President Obama of the US sees no reason for there to be bigotry or inequality with US marriage laws.

Obama's sudden support for gay marriage nets a $1MILLION in just 90 minutes - as Republicans accuse him of 'playing politics'

Note the name is splashed first and foremost and the article does not cover the reason that the society needs to be based on equality for all. Instead it is an attack piece to suggest that the president recieved a bonus or money for believing in equality.

I report you decide..

As for those thinking the Daily Fail does not show any kind of bias in it's reporting please note in todays news how they covered the story that Bishop Mitt Romney and his admission he did some gay bashing as a school kid.

The headline is as follows....
US Republican Presidential candidate forced to apologize 'for holding down gay taunt classmate and chopping off his hair' during school 'attack'

Note no mention of Mitt Romney by name instead an overly liong headline to distract readers from bothering because that's american news and Daily Fail is A US paper.

Same news paper on the same day this time covering the story that President Obama of the US sees no reason for there to be bigotry or inequality with US marriage laws.

Obama's sudden support for gay marriage nets a $1MILLION in just 90 minutes - as Republicans accuse him of 'playing politics'

Note the name is splashed first and foremost and the article does not cover the reason that the society needs to be based on equality for all. Instead it is an attack piece to suggest that the president recieved a bonus or money for believing in equality.

I report you decide..

The discussion was whether or not the UK was sovereign, not whether or not powers were passed voluntarily. Am I correct in thinking that because you've chosen to resort to abuse that you're admitting that the UK isn't sovereign?

The debate is about bias in the media.

The UK is a sovereign parlament as well you know it which is why we can age wars without any permission from the EU. You can sit and think otherwise and spout off about the Human rights act but the HRA is interpreted by our sovereign judiciary. Winston Churchill was all for the European Court of Human rights and that has nothing to do with E. Except sharing a word in the title.

Interesting comparison of headlines, Novack. Crafty b....s, aren't they?

Oh dear.

Nobody suggests the Daily Mail is other than a partisan, right-wing paper. Indeed, when you go there, there is a 'Right Minds' link on each page.

The BBC however, is claimed not to be. This is clearly not true.

On the grooming issue, the #2 most read story currently is 'Brothel boss targeted girl, 12'.

Hmm, really.

Yet drill down and you find

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-17845741

"A Carlisle man accused of inciting child prostitution offered the mother of one of his alleged victims a free kebab if she would have sex with him, a trial has heard."

This man is a brothel boss first and foremost? Really?

The BBC COMPLETELY ignores the parallels with the grooming scandal in Rochdale. For the BBC this is just a 'brothel boss'.

This despite similar disturbing racism/sexism threads in this case:

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/14/child-grooming-takeaway-azah-miah_n_1514992.html

'One of Azad Miah's under-age victims complained to the police about him three years before his eventual arrest, his trial heard.

His youngest victim, aged 12, said she eventually gave up talking to the police in 2008 about the takeaway owner pestering her for sex in exchange for cash because nothing was being done.'

'Also that year, a woman complained to police that Miah had began to undress and told her to take her clothes off on her second day of work at his Spice of India restaurant in Carlisle city centre.

And one of the girls who Miah was cleared of encouraging to have sex for money had also complained to police about him in 2008 about claims he persistently harassed her, the court heard.

Cumbria Constabulary did not launch its investigation into Miah though until Christmas 2010 following a disclosure by one of his victims to one of its "partnership agencies" about claims of child prostitution.'

The shameful bias of the BBC helps create a culture in which the plight of these girls is ignored because of fears of racism, cultural insensitivity, and so on.

Poulay please read the following BBC blog.

www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/10/bias_at_the_bbc.html

i have no doubt your retort will be along the lines of 'well they would say that wouldn't they'.

You know there are no conspiracies at every corner. Yes Press barons have tried to drive agendas starting with Hearst papers in the US or the agenda of some American press in 1939-40 trying to get the US to join with Germany. ( How the right in the US forget that)

But just because some right wing press bandy about phrases like 'fair and balanced' or 'we report you decide' it does not make them the benign news delivery men.

It means they saw a market for an opionated broadcast that appealed to a large percent of the market and they deliver that.

Obviously press barons have agendas. But we can choose to buy the Mirror, the Mail or The Guardian, each of which has a different agenda.

We have no choice with the BBC, which claims to have none.

I choose not to watch the bbc news, its ridiculous in its lefty bias. I prefer sky.

I haven't read this whole thread, apologies if this has already been covered.

The Daily Mail doesn't like the BBC much, but even they published this:

Is the BBC representing the nation

I was surprised because I thought that it would claim the BBC has a left-wing bias as this thread does, in fact it claims the BBC is failing to be critical of the current government on issues important to the people of this country.

I think that the BBC in general does a lot of good, but it does feel pressure at the moment to tread carefully around the government because it fears further cuts.

i think probably the Daily Mail particularly dislikes the Beeb because the Daily Mail isn't strictly a right-wing paper - it is a very illiberal paper. It doesn't give a toss about free market capitalism, it wants to appeal to the herd instinct which is to fear any difference...

Plenty of left wingers but the Mail and shout along with it - the Beeb on the other hand is liberal-left - with a tinge of intellectualism that the Mail is jsut going to hate.

I used to think the Beeb wasn't biased - this before the 1997 election - i thought it was normal for the press to attack the government with all the venom it could. i thought that was part of its job in fact. but then came a swathe of less biting comedy, less spiky news articles...they even continued bitching about the previous administration for the next 13 years! So i realised it: there was such a bias. I still hear on radio 4 single-sided bellyaching about the miners strike FFS.... either present both sides, or don't present at all....