The Lib Dems can be safely ignored and marginalised

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Now is the time for Cameron to push through a series of common sense policies which Lib Dems abhor.

Cut unskilled immigration to zero. Referendum on Britain leaving the ECHR. Cut petrol tax and Lib Dem "green" energy taxes which lead to high fuel bills. All windfarms subject to local referendum. All taxpayers to receive shares in the natioanalised banks. All paid for by cutting foreign aid and slashing the per household benefits cap to £15k a year.

At the first sign of Lib Dem moaning - remind them that the PM can still (effectively) call the election. The Lib Dems are due for slaughter as it is. Just imagine how much higher the electoral price they would pay if they brought down a government on any of the issues above!

Cameron and Osborne aren't unpopular because they're toffs. They're unpopular because they're pursuing policies designed to win approval with the Guardian.

It's high time they stopped pandering to Polly Toynbee/Mumsnet, and start listening to Worcester Woman and Mondeo Man again.

Yes, please - could the PM call the election now.

HTH

Oh golly yes, would love it if Cameron called an election NOW.

Bye bye Cameron and cronies. And lib dems too.

Would be lovely.

Oh, yes please. Do you think we can get a private members bill pushed through asking for a general election as soon as possible??

I didn't say he should call the election right now.

I said after Cameron pushes through a series of popular policies which resonate with the public, and which the Lib Dems (and Labour) detest.

Furthermore, given the Lib Dem perennial "differentiation" strategy - they should get it straight back.

Every time green taxes are mentioned, they should be called "Lib Dem green taxes". Every time a foreign prisoner can't be deported because of the ECHR, the Lib Dems should be blamed and made to squirm. Every time a company goes bankrupt because of the cost of red tape, Vince Cable should be held to account for his failure to liberalise employment regulation.

The Lib Dems are already going to be wiped out because of their barefaced lies about tuition fees. They may as well get the flak for their other unpopular policies too. The Lib Dems obviously don't believe in collective responsibility - it's about time they started getting their just desserts.

I'm PMSL at the idea that Cameron and Gideon are pandering to the whims of MNers. They must be the most reviled people talked about on here apart from Peter Andre and his love for his children

And yes please to a general election now.

"after Cameron pushes through a series of popular policies which resonate with the public"

Ha! This actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks for cheering me up - the weather is miserable.

I would like a general election now.

I'm sure I saw a Lib Dem moaning on the Politics Show today.

Can we have that general election now, please.

Oh yes, I would love him to call a general election now.

lfn - Cameron doesn't actually like the Guardian, you know. He loathes it. Especially as their investigative journalism exposed his cosy deals with Murdoch.

Yes please for GE, they won't see out their term in office, may as well get it over with now.

eggyblanket I personally support the idea of gay marriage (to take but one example).

However, the fact is that precious political capital is being spent on that rather than explaining the need to slash red tape to generate a dynamic economy with high employment.

Why not concentrate on things real floating voters (as opposed to a tiny minority of Guardian readers) care about? The Guardian readers will detest Cameron and Osborne however metropolitan and Notting Hill they are. People in general support the idea, but certainly don't see it as a priority.

These are tough times, they demand a focus on what is truly important. Dismantling Labour's benefits-as-lifestyle-choice culture which is surely one of the greatest social evils ever perpetrated on Britain. Reforming the education system so that unions can no longer destroy the life chances of children. Cutting crime by ignoring the Lib Dems and Ken Clarke, and locking up violent offenders for longer. Cut quangos and foreign aid, and use the proceeds to cut petrol tax. Make energy bills and holidays cheaper by cutting Lib Dem green taxes. Those are all things floating voters really care about.

yessssssssssssssssssss GE NOW NOW NOW NOW

Gay marriage is just another way of undermining marriage, so yep I'm all for it, shocked you are LFN.

Without the Lib Dems, Cameron would not be in power at all.

With the Lib Dems, you are suggesting Cameron should call a General Election.

I support both options.

Why shocked? I support the institution of marriage, and any institution and social ritual which celebrates commitment is good.

But it just isn't important enough. It's a third term issue. Right now the focus has to be on repairing Labour's failed legacy on the economy, repairing Labour's failed legacy on education, and repairing Labour's failed legacy on welfare. But mainly the economy. Let supply-side economics run rampant.

Thatcher was prepared to thump a copy of "The Constitution of Liberty" by Hayek on the table, and declare boldly "This is what we believe". In contrast, Cameron tries to cosy up to deluded luvvies like Will Hutton.

linerunner

I really don't get the argument that gay marriage undermines marriage. In what way? Do people who peddle this line imagine grooms suddenly going to start fleeing at the altar yelling 'I don't need a woman any more, I'm off with the best man'?

Your argument might hold more water if the Lib Dems hadn't been trounced into 4th by the Green Party.

You realise you're talking to peole who think the Monday Club are wishy-washy liberals?

Marriage is rooted in right wing thinking and the church. So if LFN thinks the church is up for undermining 100s of years of religious dogma, great I'm all for it.

Votes are fragmenting all over the place.

Left-wing voters who once used to monolithically vote Labour now regularly vote Lib Dem, BNP and Green (and partially, Plaid and SNP).

On the contrary, the right-wing vote is also starting to fragment between Tory and UKIP (and partially SNP). I welcome UKIP (and indeed, partially voted for them) - not because I think they are any good - on the contrary, they show every sign of being totally useless - but instead because they serve to keep the Tories honest.

It would only take some small triangulation by Cameron to see off the UKIP threat and to keep Conservatives happy. Some sensible policies on Europe, crime and petrol and he could bid "adieu" to Monsieur Farage.

'Thatcher was prepared to thump a copy of "The Constitution of Liberty" by Hayek on the table, and declare boldly "This is what we believe".'

Unfortunately she didn't read it first.