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Do you want the NHS Bill dropped?

33 replies

cakeismysaviour · 15/02/2012 04:09

Yes? Then sign this e-petition. epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22670

No? Then don't sign it.

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Bobloblaw · 01/03/2012 13:56

I've signed the petition and am attending a surgery with my MP (who is/was a GP) tomorrow.

nametakenagain · 01/03/2012 20:45

Yes, I do wanted it dropped. The things the govt say it will achieve are already happening without it. I am deeply suspicious of why, in the face of universal opposition by pretty much everyone outside of private healthcare, Cameron is determined it should go ahead. This is the beginning of the end of the NHS. And we're letting it happen.

The government ignored the petition even with more than 162 000 signatures. This is not democracy.

Solopower · 01/03/2012 21:22

No it really isn't democracy, especially as they didn't tell us before they were elected that they were going to do this.

However, it started under Labour. They didn't tell us either.

So why do all governments want rid of the NHS? I think it's because it's expensive, and asking people for higher taxes to pay for it is unpopular. So how do we show them that they are wrong? I think most of us would gladly pay for it, and I'd far prefer our taxes to go to the NHS rather than to bail out some private company that has botched an op and can't afford to pay the compensation. The private health care providers will become like the banks - they will be too important to a local area to be allowed to fail. Imagine if your only ear,nose and throat centre for miles around went bust ...

I've signed the petition.

Abra1d · 01/03/2012 21:28

Nothing could be worse than what I have seen my elderly father experience from the NHS over the last three years. If I could bulldoze his local hospital and sack all the staff, I would. Useless, incompetent and callous, the lot of them.

Why would I want to preserve the NHS?

Solopower · 01/03/2012 21:55

Very sorry about your father, Abra1d.

It is terribly worrying how the NHS is being starved of funds and run down to that extent.

ttosca · 01/03/2012 22:32

Fact Check: Who supports the health bill?

?I?ve got a simple question for the Prime Minister ? can he now give the house a list of significant health organisations who are still wholehearted supporters of the Bill??

blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-who-supports-the-health-bill/9674

Solopower · 02/03/2012 21:49

I have wondered if it is a deliberate policy to run down the health service and make it impossible for the health professionals to do their job, just so that the private health care companies can come in and save the day - but nobody, not even this government, would be so evil, would they?

ttosca · 02/03/2012 23:59

The Tories are evil, yes.

However, the NHS doesn't really need 'fixing'. In fact, studies have shown that it is one of the most efficiently run healthcare system in the world:

www.politics.co.uk/news/2011/08/08/surprise-report-nhs-most-efficient-healthcare

And patient satisfaction is extremely high (close to an all-time high):

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12805586

The NHS can be improved, certainly, but there is no need for a complete top-down re-organisation of the health system. It's actually doing (or did, until the Tories came in to power - now waiting times are up) remarkably well.

The Tories want to introduce competition because:

a) Their buddies will make money off it.

b) They are pro free-market, small state ideologues.

Andrew Lansley's Bill will wreck havoc on the NHS, and the public will not forgive them for this.

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