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It's time for Mumsnet to choose the next Labour leader

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MrsJAlfredPrufrock · 29/01/2012 21:55

Cooper, Balls or the other Miliband?

Or someone else?

Ed Miliband is a DISASTER.

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fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:20

No - I can't see how that can be made to work.

claig · 29/01/2012 23:21

Why not?

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:25

Because it's weird enough having two brothers, two sisters and a married couple right at the top of the Labour party, without having some kind of brotherly dynastic succession; because to have one Miliband after another being a disaster would be...a disaster; because David failed to win the leadership the first time, so is a failed leader...and because it would be stupid.

claig · 29/01/2012 23:27

Since when has being stupid stopped any policy pronouncements?

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:27

Unhappily for me, I think Yvette Cooper is likely to get it. Chuka is too green, and Rachel Reeves is greener than Cooper.

Also Cameron has been picked up on sexism a lot so to put a frail-looking but articulate young woman opposite him would play well to the media and the wimmin's vote.

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:29

Well, yes, you could quote the suicidal tendencies of the party.

JoantheFennel · 29/01/2012 23:29

Green =young or
Green = environmental friendly?

claig · 29/01/2012 23:29

I can't see Cooper being popular. She talks too fast and I don't think she will appeal to the majority.

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:30

Actually I meant not seasoned in the cut and thrust of media debate. I haven't seen her on TV as much as Cooper.

Are any of them environmentally friendly?

aviatrix · 29/01/2012 23:31

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claig · 29/01/2012 23:32

Ed is environmentally friendly. He was in charge of climate change and sustainability issues.

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:33

Yeah, means nothing I'm afraid. IMVHO.

claig · 29/01/2012 23:35

Agree, aviatrix. Ed does have integrity and he is not annoying. That is a key factor, because the public soon tires of politicians and sees through phonies. There is a thin line between charisma and annoying. Tony Blair had charisma, but look how popular he is now..

claig · 29/01/2012 23:36

Agree, fifteenpercentoff. I see climate change etc. as a negative.

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:38

He hasn't exactly pinned Cameron to the dispatch box and said: what about climate change, then?

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claig · 29/01/2012 23:39

That's another point in his favour.

fifteenpercentoff · 29/01/2012 23:39

Which I think is really scandalous for someone who was in charge of environment issues. (Obv I'm not with you there, Claig. Grin)

claig · 29/01/2012 23:44

'Yeah but it got him a dozen years at the top'

I think a lot of it was because the media played him up. Murdoch backed him, which helped him enormously. The media seem to be against Ed, which is why everyone is giving him a hard time. I think he is being knocked down, whereas Blair was built up. I think David Miliband is waiting in the wings and will return to great acclaim, like the Prodigal Son and there will be great rejoicing in the media and the National Executive Committee, and he will be built up.

Quattrocento · 29/01/2012 23:44

Not keen on Balls/Cooper, although the stories this weekend were amusing. Warmer on Rachel Reeves. All three of them likely to bankrupt the economy again though, but fortunately the electorate has just about enough nous not to want to go the way of Greece.

claig · 29/01/2012 23:45

fifteenpercentoff, on that iissue, we will have to disagree Grin

ThePathanKhansWitch · 30/01/2012 00:05

The Labour Party really needs someone fresh. Everyone's trying to be like Blair but not like Blair.

Personally i think anyone from the last labour terms is tainted goods with the electorate.

Why can't we do charismatic/intelligent/socially minded?

Where is our Obama? And i'm not buying Chukka, like i said shark eyes.

LineRunner · 30/01/2012 00:06

Please may I vote for Ed Miliband.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 30/01/2012 00:09

What i wouldn't do to see 'two Brains" Robin Cook (RIP) behind the despatch box. Give Tory boy a lesson in debate.

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