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WTF are Frothers? Not a quiche, but a protest group. Fighting for the "basic line of British decency" against fiscal brutality.

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garlicfrother · 22/01/2012 01:28

What are Frothers?

The term "Frothers" came about one dank and dismal November day in 2011. A frustrated user of the parenting forum Mumsnet started a thread about her dismay at the cuts that the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government was inflicting on the British public.

She stated that she was not "quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff".

The good stuff - policies, benefits, institutions that had taken years to achieve were being cut for no good reason, often leaving gaping holes in the fabric of British society.

The NHS, with which we Brits have a love-hate relationship, but like a favourite sibling, we wish to protect from harm.

Sure Start, a successful scheme that supported parents who were struggling and offered children from deprived backgrounds a better start in life.

Universal Child Benefit was cut for those families who had one earner bringing in more than £44k a year. If both parents each earn less than £44k, they keep their UCB payments. This obviously hit single parents and families with a single earner hardest.

Disability Living Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance - which enabled those with disabilities to live a decent life, without feeling that they were begging for assistance or were a burden to the taxpayer.

Student Fees, the introduction of which, contrary to Lib Dem pre-election promises, means that a whole generation of young people will have to think carefully before applying to higher education.

These and many other cuts are being made in the name of austerity. We are "all in this together", but some of us are deeper in this than others.

We all understand that there are sacrifices to be made but why should these sacrifices be borne by those who already have so little?

The general public seems oblivious of the dangers being faced, they are unaware of the injustices being wrought on the already disadvantaged.

The government is winning the war of the headlines. They have blasted the recipients of DLA and ESA as scrounger and cheats so often that the general public believe it. They misinterpret data to "prove" their points. Teachers are painted as being irresponsible and greedy, while the bankers rake in the money.

The poster on Mumsnet was not alone for long. Within a few days, a group of over 30 posters had formed. They asked themselves, "What can we do?".

The idea of a blog was born. Three days later the blog had over thirty authors signed up, a Facebook page and a Twitter account.

The Aims:

  • to open the general publics' eyes to the injustices being created by the governement
  • to inform those who are facing cuts about their rights
  • to link with other activists and charities, in order to put pressure on the government

Are you a Frother?

Come and join us.

BLOG

FACEBOOK

TWITTER

OP posts:
KatieMiddleton · 24/01/2012 17:00

Hooray! Well done MmeL!

Hullygully · 24/01/2012 17:02

Hurrah!

KnottyLocks · 24/01/2012 17:18

That's marvellous, MmeL Smile

garlicfrother · 24/01/2012 17:19

Summarised & linked: toomanycuts.blogspot.com/2012/01/cuts-feed-sharks.html

I used Mumsnet's fantastic loan shark cartoon :)

OP posts:
carernotasaint · 24/01/2012 17:29

Yay Thats fab MmeL Well done.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 24/01/2012 17:42

Congrats Mme. Fab -U-Lous! Cheers Wine

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 17:53

Blush thanks.

Wine for all.

OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 18:05

Thats great!

Might attract some newbie frothers Smile

PattiMayor · 24/01/2012 18:39

Great blog MmeL - I will get onto twitter. I've been a bit lax on the tweeting front of late

RatherBeOnThePiste · 24/01/2012 18:41

and BTW Mme - I love the loan shark cartoon Smile

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 19:49

Ratherbe
That was a MNHQ find, the cartoon.

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 20:29

"David Cameron and Nick Clegg are two smug idiots"

Great start to a blog post.

PattiMayor · 24/01/2012 21:35

This is a good blog that one of my friends posted on fb - landlords not tenants getting rich on benefit payments

TeWihara · 24/01/2012 22:36

Can I ask has anyone got a link to back up the half a million available jobs figure, I have looked and looked but can't find one?

garlicfrother · 24/01/2012 22:43

Yep, am going to find the latest data on ONS for you.

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garlicfrother · 24/01/2012 23:00

December 2011, seasonally adjusted, Great Britain

All people:
Economically active - 30,942,000
In employment - 28,316,000
Unemployed - 2,626,000
Economically inactive - 8,980,000

Total JSA claimants - 1,536,300

Unadjusted:
Job seekers - 1,403,910
ESA and incapacity benefits - 2,560,470

Total jobs:
Great Britain - 30,266,000
UK - 31,101,000

Unfilled jobcentre vacancies:
Great Britain - 269,089

Definitely not half a million. There are 5.23 jobseekers for every job.

www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/gor/2092957698/report.aspx

OP posts:
garlicfrother · 24/01/2012 23:01
  • That's gone up, btw. was 4.7 last month.
OP posts:
CardyMow · 24/01/2012 23:12

Mme - Sorry, I disappeared because DS3 woke up from his nap, and I have been absent from roll call because it was his birthday. He had GREAT fun, he loved the rocket I bought him (Happyland), he got in a terrible mess squidging handfuls of his orange velvet cake into his mouth and all over his face, hair, legs, in his nappy, he made us sing Happy Birthday about 22,000 times (He bounced and wiggled and Grin every time we sang it, and it was just so cute we had to do it again and again and again and again ).

Repayments on a social fund loan. Right. They like you to pay it back within 12 months if at all possible. So if you are awarded £520, you will pay back £10 a week. This is taken directly from your IS or JSA. No matter what size your family is, or what you are asking for the money for, no-one will get awarded more than £1,000 in total. Even if you have, say, asked for £300 for a cooker, and 3 months later asked for £200 for a washing machine, and then you have to move house and carpet it and pay removal costs - they then won't give you any more than £500+ whatever repayments you have made on the outstanding loans. And they hardly ever give you the full amount you ask for, either. So if it will cost you £1000 to carpet your 3-bed house, they will only give you roughly £750.

I am paying back £7.50 a week. Sometimes the payments can be as much as £20 a week, though you can appeal on the basis of hardship to get the repayments reduced slightly.

That's ANOTHER point about people in Social Housing moving to a cheaper area - you have to include the cost of carpeting a whole house in the removal figure too, as social housing LL's rip out the previous carpets when you leave. In private rented, you get the carpets. When you buy, you get carpets. In Social housing, you get bare floorboards, bare flooring panels or bare concrete. Does anyone have any idea JUST how much it costs, even buying the cheapest carpet from carpetright (that doesn't last more than 3 years in a busy family house), to carpet an entire family home IN ONE GO?

It's one of the reasons I don't know if I can AFFORD to take a bigger rented house if the council offers me one - based on the average sq footage of the council houses locally, it will cost me in the region of £1,200+. Which, funilly enough - I don't have.

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 23:44

Thanks, Hunty. Do have a look at the blog, I hope it is ok.

Glad to hear that your DS had a good time. I can tell from your post how much fun you all had.

CardyMow · 24/01/2012 23:51

Blog is great, I doubt I could have written so eloquently about it. Probably because my keyboard gets covered in froth every time I try to think about the loss of the social fund.

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 23:53

PattiMayor
That is an EXCELLENT blog post. I have tweeted it.

sunshineandbooks · 24/01/2012 23:57

I have found my spiritual home. Hello everyone. Smile

Thanks for the link garlic. I got very depressed by the politics section so hadn't checked in here for ages and had no idea about this group or I'd have joined it ages ago. I thought all the frothing references were about slagging off feminists again. Blush

MmeLindor. · 25/01/2012 00:08

Hello Sunshine, and welcome to Frothers.

TeWihara · 25/01/2012 00:11

Happy birthday to baby Hunty!

summary or the benefit cap is up now.

There's loads of little formatting errors but I'm too tired to sort it now.

Night all.

TeWihara · 25/01/2012 00:12

Thanks for the links Mme btw