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Bloody he'll, we have FOOD BANKS in the UK

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Jux · 08/01/2012 13:11

People in our country cannot afford to buy FOOD.

Other people donate food to food banks so that people have something to eat.

Are we living in the 13th century? It only needs the super-rich to start donating tracts of land for us commoners to 'work' and we're back there.

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MrsPotter · 08/01/2012 13:16

Unfortunetly this is the case,

I myself have had to rely on food parcels at least twice whilst living in a hostel.

Honeydragon · 08/01/2012 13:18

You're in a bubble I'm afraid Sad

I supposedly live and an affluent area ours is heavily relied on

edam · 08/01/2012 13:35

The Food Programme on Radio 4 has been reporting on this for a while now. It's shocking. Apparently some of the people in need are unable to afford food because the benefits agency has fucked up and they've been refused crisis loans. The boss of one food bank was on R4 saying he's been telling government it's outrageous that they are leaving people entitled to benefits without the money to buy food because of administrative incompetence.

LadySybilDeChocolate · 08/01/2012 13:36

In some homes it's food or heating as well as benefit cock ups. Sad

coccyx · 08/01/2012 13:39

People have lived beyond their means for years. People out of touch with budgeting etc

edam · 08/01/2012 13:41

coccyx - food banks aren't about 'living beyond their means' - no-one in the UK should have so little they can't afford to eat, FFS.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 08/01/2012 13:44

If the benefits agency has 'fucked up' and left people high and dry then isn't that the part to get angry about rather than start making drama-queen statements about the 13th Century?

franke · 08/01/2012 13:46

I heard that programme as well edam - I found it absolutely shocking. They had one poor family where the dad went out to work and mum was at home with the baby. He increased his hours and as a result their benefits/tax credits went down by much more than his increase in earnings, so much so that they were having to use food banks. That simply cannot be right.

What also really incensed me about that programme was that they invited Ian Duncan Smith on to discuss the issue, he refused and just sent a typical politician's statement spouting a load of guff which completely side-stepped the issue. I felt so bloody angry about it.

Jux · 08/01/2012 13:47

We live on my dla and dh's meager earnings as a muso (which are being continually squeezed as more and more pubs close, or stop the music because they're hanging on by the skin of their teeth and Sky's cheaper). I hadn't realized I was in quite such a bubble, but my brother does give me money every month direct from his salary as he earns more than he needs. That's what is keeping us going, plus I inherited some dosh when mum died.

Most people in this town are on the dole or filling shelves in Tesco's. The ones who aren't are finding it tougher and tougher. No one has mentioned a food bank here.

Meanwhile, Cameron will continue cutting benefits while eating at The Ivy.

We are truly a third world country. We tut at regimes where this happens, Mugabe etc. I am really horrified it's got as bad as this (and hoping I can eke out my inheritance long enough to keep us going - thanks mum, really).

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 08/01/2012 13:53

"Cameron will continue cutting benefits "

Have your benefits actually been cut? If your DH's earnings are down you may qualify for tax credits on top of the DLA and other benefits. Recommend you run your details through this Online Benefits Calculator and make sure you're getting everything to which you are entitled.

Jux · 08/01/2012 14:03

Thanks, but right now - thanks to mum and bro - we are making ends meet. If things do get worse for us I will go there and see what's going on. I'm supposed to be claiming income support, or so people tell me, but we can manage without it, I don't. 10 years ago, when we lived in London, we needed everything we could get, but that was before I got dla. We live more cheaply here, though I don't really know how, as the food we buy is better quality and slightly more expensive.

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Jux · 08/01/2012 14:36

Really, though, I am just appalled that there are people in this country who can't buy food. This is a dreadful indictment of our politicians, who really are in a bubble, and are so out of touch that this has been allowed to happen. How naive were they, thinking that rich people would be philanthropic? One reason they are rich is because they aren't philanthropic.

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fuckityfuckfuckfuck · 08/01/2012 14:39

Jux why don't you claim income support if you're entitled to it and donate the money to the food bank?

LadySybilDeChocolate · 08/01/2012 14:41

The gap between the rich and the poor is widening very quickly. They will be re-introducing the work houses next. Sad

(Hi Jux, it's Belledechoc. Smile)

AnnoyingOrange · 08/01/2012 14:53

Food banks have been around for years. My children's primary school collect donations for the food bank at harvest festival.

www.trusselltrust.org/foodbank-projects

AnnoyingOrange · 08/01/2012 14:55

Food banks have been around for years. My children's primary school collect donations for the food bank at harvest festival.

www.trusselltrust.org/foodbank-projects

Forgot to convert the link

rootietootie · 08/01/2012 15:13

I had to rely on food parcels from ss, about 8/9 years ago. Had just finished college and was unemployed. Tax credits mucked up my award, according to them they had 'accidently' (despite getting all the right info) me too much and so was not entitled to any further tax credits till the following year. That left me with £37 IS i think it was to keep a house and feed a small child. Im generally good with money but not a miracle worker. I had to rely on food parcels until I got my mp to sort it out. Without them, i dread to think what the outcome would have been.

Jux · 08/01/2012 15:45

Hi belle!Smile, how's tricks? I knew the gap was widening to ridiculous and shameful proportions, but I honestly thought that people who lived in this country could afford to buy food. Obviously things were getting harder with energy costs going through the roof, principally, but food costs increasing too, but it never occurred to me that we would need food banks.

We won't have workhouses though, as they'll be too expensive to run. Tent cities more like.

fuckityfuckfuckfuck (is that enough fucks?, you may require one more Grin), hadn't thought of that, but will consider it. I had thought that if I didn't make claims on dosh I could do without, then it would be put to use elsewhere and benefit everyone, ie perhaps less need to make some of these cuts.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who doesn't claim all their benefits. I've certainly worked with people in the past who didn't claim cb, for instance, because they didn't need it, and assumed it just stayed in the pot for those who did.

Perhaps Tesco's and Waitrose, Sainsbury's etc could donate food to the banks. I would feel much more kindly towards Tesco's if I knew they were doing something like that - and good quality stuff, not shit that's nearly at its sell-by date.

Orange and rootietootie, Sad.

I did once live on £15 a week IS, 30-odd years ago, my award was too complicated and took about 6m to sort out; no one mentioned food banks. I rang the energy suppliers, who were prepared to wait to be paid, and was v v v careful with what I bought. Went for a walk every few hours in the evenings so my flat felt warm when I got home, went to bed about 9pm etc. (Landlady was nice about the rent too.)

While not feeling particularly dissatisfied with my lot in life, I had had no idea how lucky I am and have been.

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edam · 08/01/2012 16:10

23 out of 29 members of the cabinet are millionaires. And they run a system where some people don't have enough to eat.

TeWihara · 08/01/2012 16:14

It's weird isn't it? They have been around for a long time but demand has increased massively over the last year and TT is saying they aren't able to meet demand atm.

There's even one here in our pretty posh/expensive town. I know some supermarkets do donate, but mostly they're church organised, and the coupons to claim the food books go to people referred through children's centre's, SS, Job Centre etc.

Benefits ARE being cut, HB cuts started in January, there is a new round of cuts to tax credits coming in this April (online calculators aren't adjusted for them) and more to come when it switches to Universal Credit.

MoreBeta · 08/01/2012 16:25

In December 2011, there were over 45.8 million people (15% of population) in the USA on Food Stamps or Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Programme as it is known. That number is still climbing and it is no accident that the USA is the most economically divided OECD country.

The UK is following that path.

garlicfrother · 08/01/2012 16:39

Local authorities are being given the right to choose whether to award crisis funds and council tax benefit. This means most of them won't, obv. That will leave people worse off due to the council tax, unable to get emergency help and with reduced help towards their rent. If they've been getting DLA for a disabled child, that's already gone, and tax credits are going, too. Meanwhile we have the Olympics, we're paying 76% of every MP's lunch and are building a bunch of interesting new roads.

I agree, we're almost third-world and racing back through history.

Anybody just peeking out of their bubble, have a look at Polly Toynbee's article; it sums things up in one easy read.

LadySybilDeChocolate · 08/01/2012 17:08

I'm OK Jux, will be happier when I move away from eminem next door Wink

Jux · 08/01/2012 18:54

@ LadySybil

I got on to the food bank site and saw how far away our nearest was. Then a friend of ours from the church popped in for a cuppa and as I began to bend her ear about it, she told me our food bank was opening next Friday.

Garlicfrother, I feel sick reading that tbh. I'm not a fan of any of the parties, but Polly seems to have forgotten that The B/B partnership brought us here, though, didn't it?

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