Them and us - why posh Tories who claim to care about social mobility haven't got a clue

[breadandbutterfly]

...and are patronising bastards to boot.

See:

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/09/social-mobility-suzanne-moore

Esp enjoy the comment at 9 April 2011 9:32AM -

"The Camerons know how to 'work' their connections, too. David Cameron got his first job as a researcher for Tim Rathbone, his godfather and Conservative MP for Lewes.

Three months later he went to Hong Kong to work at the conglomerate Jardine Matheson - Daddy was stockbroker to the chairman, providing a fast-track into the business world.

When the young Cameron was due to attend a job interview at Conservative Central Office, a phone call was received from Buckingham Palace. "I understand you are to see David Cameron," said the caller. "I am ringing to tell you that you are about to meet a truly remarkable young man."

It has been speculated that the mystery call was from Captain Sir Alastair Aird, Equerry to the Queen Mother and husband of Cameron's godmother. The Airds vigorously denied it. Others have suggested the caller might have been Sir Brian McGrath, a family friend who was private secretary to Prince Philip. But he, too, though named as a referee for the job, denies it firmly".

You couldn't make it up could you? They're all in it together.
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But much better than on much of the planet so it's certainly not terribly bad.

Yes, it's very bad - unless you want to start comparing the UK with developing nations and dictatorships.

Perhaps we should compare our public transport system the same way - Hey! It's better than Zimbabwe!

goose

Newwave: it's you who's being utterly, utterly obtuse. I mean, beyond obtuse.

I am not accusing you of blaming the children, I'm accusing you of condemning them to failure because of the parents' behaviour.

ie leaving them to a life of failure by blaming the parents rather than demanding that state education lift them up despite their parents' behaviour.

Really, it's difficult to put it more clearly. Best not to FFS when you really are totally and completely in the wrong and don't understand.

Obviously it is YOU that is in the wrong, nowhere was I blaming the children for the shortcomings of their parents neither was I advocating that they should be left to fail by the actions (or non actions) of their parents, in those circumstances the school needs to help these children (which will of course be helped by the Tory cuts)

I also suggest you don't complain about being called obtuse unless you want your own post reported

I never would complain about anything on here, I will leave it to the right wingers on here to do the complaining and the censoring, quattro being a fine example of the thought police.

The right is more libertarian. We should be fighting to ensure people whose views we disagree with have a right to expound them.

No one wants the children of bad parents to suffer. It's how you help those children which counts. However there is nothing to suggest people are less happy with less money once their basic needs are met so the suggestion everyone can be a winner at some top of the tree all As and all in social class 1 is not feasible. Some will move up and on the way others must fall back - the mobility is two way.

I didn't say you were blaming the children. How many times?