Multiculturalism and Religious Extremism - Is there a link?

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The PM's speech on the theme of state multiculturalism having failed appeared to strike a chord, especially the part about where a 'live and let live' approach, respecting other cultures and traditions, becomes a 'let's not complain for fear of causing offence'... I paraphrase. Is it a confusion of identity that leads to events like the 7/7 bombing? A lack of social cohesion? An overromanticised notion of 'the old country'? Something else?

An unjust war in Iraq?

Lack of integration and feeling of Britishness.

The need for some, repeat some incomers to want to turn a specific area into an enclosed ghetto which strongly follows the culture and "morality" of their country of origin and to also have a critical opinion of their host countries "morality" and culture (or lack thereof in their opinion).

The adherents of Muslim groups who would impose Sharia law a Theocracy and end freedom of speech and democratic government in this country regardless of the wishes of the majority of it's inhabitants come into this category.

A minority I know but a very vocal minority.

Back in the eighties I lived in a town with a large asian/pakistani population. The first generation women were rather limited to staying in one area, largely because they lacked language skills and didn't work outside of the home. The men were very 'traditional' but more integrated. In those days, the children were incredibly keen to be 'western' - often to the annoyance of Mum & Dad - rejecting old-country traditions.

Today, what I think is very strange is how some of the children of immigrants (and the 7/7 crew were all British born if I remember rightly) are going completely the other way. Instead of fighting against the old traditions, they're adopting more extreme versions than even the ones their parents followed. Despite living in that asian community for so many years, I didn't see a woman in a black full-length covering once, for example.

Cameron is only saying, what the public had been saying and thinking for years.

Today children as young as two are encouraged 'to embrace their oun cultures'. At my son's nursery, children where encouraged to put photos up of themselves and asked where do you come from? Despite all being born in this country, although many had foreign parents/or one parent who was not British. I challenged this, as I thought it divisive.

Through a dogma a multiculturalism many Muslims, particularly from the sticter backgrounds (say Pakistan) do not feel British at all. As said the four criminals who blew 51 people up on 7/7 were all British born. Ever been to Lords and seen cricket, when Pakistan plays England? You will see many Pakistani flags, despite the suppporters being British born.

Where I used to live,the Hindu man, who ran a local news agent, (and had been her since he was ten, and knew more about British history than most Brits)
used to fly the St. Georges flag outside his shop, the council told him to take it down. He was visited by the thought police and the council, he promply told them to FxxkOFF!and was not bothered again. All the residents loved him and cheered him on!
As I have said no mention seems to be made of the disenfranchised white working class, who have time and time again been made to feel somehow ashamed of their roots. This continually battering of the history,culture and heritage has created great resentment. Mass immigration has only poured fuel on the fire.

'been here!'

stricter!

Must check text, next time!

Despite what politicians say about social cohesion or the lack of it, they are determined to encourage more faith schools to open even though there is a lot of research that shows these are bad for social cohesion and that the sooner children start mixing with people different from them, the better it is for society. For example, this research: www.lsbu.ac.uk/families/publications/SCDiversityEdu28.8.06.pdf

These are schools paid for by the tax payer.

Completely secular education is the fairest and safest option - no one gets any privilege or disadvantage and there is no cultural ghettoization.

If parents want their children to learn about their faith, they can do it outside of school. In school, children should learn a bit about all religions equally as part of cultural studies.

Hmmm.

Alternative view.

Look at the rise of the Christian right in the US over recent decades. Religious extremism does not need a multi-cultural society in order to develop and flourish.

To me at least simply a feeling that someone's way of life is under threat is the catalyst.

The authorities are not interested in how fundamentlist you are. In America the Christian fundamentalists do not blow up people in trains/buses. They are normally very patriotic to the USA.

This country is also only interested in the alienation of young Muslims, through multi-culturalism and living separate lives, when their religion is more important than any allegiance they have to the country they were born in. The four young British Muslims who blew themsselves up along with 51 others on July the 7th, did not have an allegiance to this country, quite the reverse.This is not the case in the USA, with Christian fundamentalist groups.

Cameron could not care less how religious you are 'have a beard, flowing robe'. None of the 7/7 bombers were like this. They followed an ideology of Islam, (even if it was false) and interpreted it in a way that included suicide bombings the only law they saw fit to follow was Allah and not the laws of this land. in Sharia law for instance the only law recognised, is the word of God.
This country through political correctness has allowed anyone spouting hateful things about the West to flourish. I could go on but the dinners burning!

"In America the Christian fundamentalists do not blow up people in trains/buses."

No, they just shoot them outside abortion clinics.