How to be avoid being kettled next time you protest - thank goodness for technology

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Fantastic story:

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/02/inside-anti-kettling-hq

Well done, you guys.

Brilliant!

Brilliant, and thank you so much - I loathe the tactic of kettling, which does encourage pissed off people to engage in criminal damage. It's false imprisonment - a crime, but not acknowledged as such, being as it's the police who do it.
Once again, well done to the clever lads working to help the students in this way and thank you, Granted for the article.

that's interesting - incidentally does anyone think taht the march on 26 March will end with kettling - its slightly different in that it ends up in Hyde Park - presumably to aid easy dispersal.

I want to go on it possibly with my dcs but do not want to risk being kettled.

I think that's their objective sincity, intimidate people so they don't march.

What a great use of a university education! Good for them!

Wonderful on so many levels. For example, if the police had learnt more from their IT classes, they would have been able to pre-empt/combat this. Ironic, too, that they are kettling students who are simply protesting for the right to receive the education that shows them how to do this sort of thing.

Love it!

However, it won't be long before the police have infiltrated Sukey and are feeding in the wrong information to mislead people. Hope the students remain one step ahead.

Thanks, Granted, for this.

Hi, Dotnet, I remember you from another thread.

"I loathe the tactic of kettling, which does encourage pissed off people to engage in criminal damage."

there is just so much wrong with this sentiment

Apple, yes maybe but it is the truth.

It's called revenge or getting your own back.

why it it a victory, why does it take so much technology to.....disperse?

so all the police have to do is talk about kettling on their radios and the crowd disperses

have you all missed something here? switch yer lighbulbs on..

well maybe the kettling is in response to violence

i would have thought that's very true, given there was none at the first demo, where they trusted the students and found their trust badly misplaced

Given there was none at the first demo, where they trusted the students and found their trust badly misplaced

Maybe that was in response to the students trusting Clegg & Co to keep their word and found that trust to be badly misplaced.

One would point out that no plod has died as the result of demonstrators actions shame the opposite cannot be said

oh I see

permission granted to be violent and destroy things and threaten lives

yeah i don't think so -- and there we will disagree for ever and ever

even those guys in Egypt managed to stay away from violence and chucking fire extinguishers

what is the matter with you

permission granted to be violent and destroy things and threaten lives, sounds like the plod to me.

I give you Blair Peach and, Tomlinson.

Does a copper fracturing a young lads (Alfie) skull and then other plod trying to stop him getting hospital treatment meet with your approval as well.

what is the matter with you, nothing at all just that I can see that it's not the "dark forces" against the "blame free plod"

Or is plod violence ok? as I note that does not receive your condemnation

even those guys in Egypt managed to stay away from violence and chucking fire extinguishers, yeah right 9 dead and 300+ injured

You used a political decision to excuse violence and thuggery. Find it so uncomfortable you have to change the subject?

Are you trying to suggest that I am supportive of police violence? Wrong track love. Yes I condemn police violence. Your turn.

You justified life-threatening violence with one political decision.

"even those guys in Egypt managed to stay away from violence and chucking fire extinguishers, yeah right 9 dead and 300+ injured"

you are so ignorant

eight days of peaceful protest against a police regime

mubarak sends in the state sponsored thugs and chaos ensues

read the papers

Apple, I dont much like violence from anybody however I can see that "political decisions" sometimes end in vandalism and violence, the idiot with the extinguisher got what he deserved, that said he neither killed or hurt anyone whilst the plod involved in Tomlinsons death walks free.

Cammila gets a fright and the plod are on the case, Alfie gets his skull fractured and......

You justified life-threatening violence with one political decision. please cut and paste where i did

mubarak The Met Police sends in the state sponsored thugs and chaos ensues.

"Maybe that was in response to the students trusting Clegg & Co to keep their word and found that trust to be badly misplaced."

There you go.

Newwave you can't rewrite history. The police trusted the students on the first demo and there was violence and chaos at Millbank.

However much you want the police to have been provocateurs, to be provocateurs, you are on a sticky wicket there.

Plus, your last post made me think you're not that well informed anyway, just opinionated.

"Maybe that was in response to the students trusting Clegg & Co to keep their word and found that trust to be badly misplaced."

You justified life-threatening violence with one political decision.

That is a stretch to find a link between those two statements.

"The police trusted the students on the first demo and there was violence and chaos at Millbank"

Apart from the idiot there was little "Violence" there was however a modicum of vandalism and quite some chaos. You appear to need to exaggerate what happened to give some justification to your incorrect view of the demonstration.

If I could take you back in time to a hunt sab confrontation with the hunting fraternity filth then you could have witnessed some real violence

"Maybe that was in response to the students trusting Clegg & Co to keep their word and found that trust to be badly misplaced."

You justified life-threatening violence with one political decision.

That is a stretch to find a link between those two statements.

"The police trusted the students on the first demo and there was violence and chaos at Millbank"

Apart from the idiot there was little "Violence" there was however a modicum of vandalism and quite some chaos. You appear to need to exaggerate what happened to give some justification to your incorrect view of the demonstration.

If I could take you back in time to a hunt sab confrontation with the hunting fraternity filth then you could have witnessed some real violence

a "modicum"?

I was a sab. I do know. I just have more perspective than you.

a "modicum"?, yes a modicum.

"Violence" against inanimate objects is vandalism, you cannot be violent towards a brick wall for example.

The breaking of windows is not violence it is vandalism.

Breaking a students skull is violence.

It is the plod who provoke violence by kettling demonstrators.

Good job the suffragettes did not have to rely on people like you or women still would not have the vote.

Can you break it up, there you two? It's like watching a policeman and a student, only without one in riot gear and the other one in ...um not riot gear. Don't really notice what students wear these days.

Glad some enjoyed the link, anyway.

Ok, changed my mind on kettling. Newwave and appletrees need to be kettled..

s'ok you can count on me not to throw fire extinguishers

Surely, the only anti-kettling measures you'd need as a student would be a packed lunch and a thermos... biggest complaint of being made to stay in one area for a while always seems to be 'getting nothing to eat or drink'. A few sarnies would also be cheaper for the allegedly improverished student than all those expensive smartphones....