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This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 general election

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ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 11:49

The Tories have betrayed
Pensioners

From
Tony Blair
John Prescott
Harriet Harman
Gordon Brown

Too many of today's older people - many of whom took part in the war effort helped build post- war Britain - do not enjoy security in their retirement.

The combination of low incomes and the extra Tory costs they face for eye and dental services, water charges, and VAT on domestic fuel leaves many struggling to meet the most essential bills.

They have little if anything left to enjoy the social, leisure and educational activities that many younger people take for granted and which older people understandably want to share.

It is not just pensioners' incomes which give cause for concern.

Even more pensioners find that fear of crime, poor and expensive public transport and the loss of local services and facilities restrict their lives unnecessarily.

Having paid tax all their working lives a whole generation now finds it cannot be sure of the National Health Service or the continuing care which they have helped to provide for others.

Millions of people face poverty in retirement.

Tory policies have failed too many of today's pensioners and too many of tomorrow's.

Today's pensioners have lost £20 a week through the Government breaking the earnings link with the basic state pension. SERPS has been more than halved in value.

Millions have been encouraged to join personal pensions which, for many, are costly and inadequate.

The Tories have betrayed pensioners and, while the Tories have let down pensioners, they have also failed to look after the interests of all British taxpayers including all pensioners.

Now the Tories propose to abolish the basic state pension and to privatise all state pension provision.

They propose to spend £5 billion in the first five years and a total of £312 billion on their dogmatic proposals. They have not said how they will pay for their plans; nor who will pay them and by how much.

But Tory priorities are very clear. Not one penny of this money will help today's pensioners. Not one penny will help pensioners who retire in poverty in the coming years.

Labour's priorities are different.

Labour has always done its duty by pensioners and the next Labour government will do the same.

Labour will defend the basic state pension: without means-testing and ensure that it remains the foundation of our pensions policy.

Labour will retain SERPS' vital role in providing a good second-tier pension for those who cannot get a good value-for-money pension in private provision.

Labour will encourage companies to provide good occupational pensions. It will create the framework for better second pension schemes which will offer better value - for money, flexibility and security than many people on low and modest incomes can enjoy today.

Labour's pensions strategy must, over time, aim to ensure that people in retirement have a sufficient income from the state and second pensions to avoid having to claim means ?tested benefits.

We will strike the right balance between state and private provision and a fair balance between the needs of today's and tomorrow's pensioners.

The Labour government will take immediate steps to assist pensioners. We will assist all pensioners by cutting back VAT on fuel from 8 per cent to 5 per cent.

We will take action to tackle the failings of the social security system which prevent 1 million pensioners receiving the Income Support to which they are entitled.

We will use part of the resources raised by the windfall levy to enable the young unemployed to help improve the insulation of pensioners' homes.

We will act to tackle the unfair lottery of community care. The Conservatives have betrayed a generation of older people who were promised care from the cradle to the grave.

Pensioners now have to pay for care that they used to get free on the NHS.

The closure of long- stay NHS beds and the introduction of the Tories' NHS market has shunted elderly patients from free NHS care to means - tested social care. Patients living in one part of the country are having to pay for care which is available free elsewhere. Under the Tories where you live determines the care you get and the price you pay.

At least 40,400 pensioners every year have had to sell their family homes to pay for long- term care.

Pensioners who have paid all their lives for the welfare state find that under the Tories, the NHS isn't there for them when they need it.

Some of the longest hospital waits are for operations, such as hip replacements which are particularly needed by pensioners.

Around 200,000 people are waiting for an in patient appointment for orthopaedics.

Almost 8,000 of these people are waiting for more than a year.

Many of the people waiting for orthopaedic appointments are pensioners.

Labour will cut waiting lists by cutting spending on red tape and bureaucracy.

We will end the Tory internal market in the National Health Service and transfer money which is currently spent on excessive management costs to front- line services.

As a first step we will save £100 million which will fund an extra 100,000 operations a year and cut waiting lists.

Labour's election manifesto includes a commitment to a review of the position of pensioners in Britain.

The review will report on the following priority issues as a matter of urgency and receive representations on the state pension including the earnings link; second tier pensions including SERPs and community care.

The review will include the National Pensioners Convention.

Labour will put pensioners' voices at the heart of government. We will ensure wider consultation of pensioners about issues which affect their lives.

We will encourage .the development of pensioners' councils and forums so that pensioners' voices can be at the heart of decision-making in local authorities as well as central Government.

We will include pensioners' organisations in this process, in particular the National Pensioners Convention which is the largest co-ordinating body for representative pensioners' organisations.

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The original was printed and published by the
Labour Party, John Smith House, 150 Walworth Road, London SE17
c Feb 1997

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magicbutterfly · 28/01/2011 12:01

I've just watched a programme on the BBC where an elderly woman doubled her income from the state by filling in the appropriate forms. Have you ever helped aor would you be willing to help such a person Ivanhoe.

I very much doubt it.

And surely you require permission to post your opening post.

ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 12:17

Sorry I dont believe in means testing pensioners.

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Chil1234 · 28/01/2011 12:33

Poverty is a terrible thing regardless of whether it applies to a young or old person. Eradicating poverty is not achieved by paying well-off people yet more money.

complimentary · 28/01/2011 12:36

magicbutterfly. Why should Ivanhoe need permission to print the lies of the Labour party? Surely it's all out their under the freedom of information act.

They are hardly going to 'go after' Ivanhoe are they? That would show how they and others continually fail pensioners.

I have helped pensioners for many years and I 'celebrate' (what a PC term!) his/her contribution in this area. Grin

ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 13:22

///////Chil1234 Fri 28-Jan-11 12:33:29
Poverty is a terrible thing regardless of whether it applies to a young or old person. Eradicating poverty is not achieved by paying well-off people yet more money.//////

The low income tax free market enterprise culture ensures that the rich are paid handsome amounts of money, because it is they who are creating the wealth that we are suppossed to be all grateful for.

This is the ethos of the "right wing" that Clegg is upholding.

I dont agree with this ethos, particularly not in Britain with our continuing rich and poor devide.

But this is the way it is until we British consolidate and get rid of it. I wont hold my breath on that.

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wubblybubbly · 28/01/2011 13:31

Sorry, but what happens when "the rich" hit 65 then? I'm assuming they don't all drop down dead?

There are rich pensioners and poor pensioners. Increasing the basic state pension for all pensioners and scrapping means testing means that little pot of money has to be spread further. it would seem to me that the poorest pensioners would be worse off.

Chil1234 · 28/01/2011 13:35

So you have no personal wealth? No property? No private pension? No savings?.... The rich may well be in posession of handsome amounts of money but the rest of us are also creating the wealth, using the wealth and paying the taxes that redistribute some of that wealth to the poor.

magicbutterfly · 28/01/2011 14:31

"Why should Ivanhoe need permission to print the lies of the Labour party?"

copyright.

complimentary · 28/01/2011 15:20

Copyright! Let them sue Ivanhoe! If they dare!Grin Grin

Chil1234 · 28/01/2011 15:34

Hell, if I ran the Labour party I'd be thrilled if someone as mentally well-balanced & charismatic as ///IVANHOE!!!/// was regurgitating my speeches.

ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 15:35

////////So you have no personal wealth? No property? No private pension? No savings?.... The rich may well be in posession of handsome amounts of money but the rest of us are also creating the wealth, using the wealth and paying the taxes that redistribute some of that wealth to the poor./////

Ideally yes, but we have been run by right wing economists since the 80's.

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Chil1234 · 28/01/2011 15:45

So as someone with personal wealth, a private pension, some savings and a house of their own (I'm guessing all this btw) you think the right-wing economists have condemned you personally to a poverty-stricken retirement and death from cold?

ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 15:59

This isnt personal, im not talking about me.

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magicbutterfly · 29/01/2011 09:01

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