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Cameron and the BBC - the gloves are off

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LadyBlaBlah · 29/10/2010 15:53

www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/10/bbc-cuts-cameron-brussels

So why does he hate the BBC - is it just because it is public funded or is it because of his dealings with Murdoch?

Whichever, I would imagine this is a real problem with voters

On an aside, I have noticed that they refuse to put anyone of worth on Question Time, and do reluctantly on Newsnight to defend their policies

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HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 15:56

Well he was pr for ITV wasn't he? He went over to the dark side and sold his soul. Oh and he's a c*nt :o

LadyBlaBlah · 29/10/2010 16:02

Yes, he was in PR which makes you wonder why his PR is so dreadful

The press should be having a field day with him, but so far have remained rather loyal

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longfingernails · 29/10/2010 16:09

The BBC need to be marginalised, mercilessly mocked, and cut down. A mere 16% cut is disappointing, but at least it's something.

No-one has to buy or watch Murdoch's output if they don't want to. Let people make their own choices about what they want to pay for.

The TV tax is more or less compulsory.

The BBC would need to be pruned even if it were unbiased, but given it's increasingly overt Guardianista slant, it is urgent and imperative.

Yesterday, I watched the far-left witterings of Tim Donovan on BBC London on the housing benefit changes in total shock.

Mind you, it seems that the BBC will be on strike so often in the next few years that viewers switch in droves to other channels anyway.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:17

er... longfingernails, two strike days, NUJ only which is a very small percent of the BBC, not sure it'll even affect output much apart from the news and even then...

Totally disagree about slashing the BBC budget, though I do agree it's over bloated and far too top heavy. And can any broadcasting corporation ever be totally impartial? It is after all made by people who have opinions and beliefs. Either the news is made by robots or we accept that to get a broad range of opinions you have to watch a broad range of output.

huddspur · 29/10/2010 16:22

I think we really need to look at privatising some of the bbc. BBC1,BBC2,Radio 1,Radio 2 and Radio 4 could all be run commercially without need for subsidy from the tax payer.

sarah293 · 29/10/2010 16:24

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Ghoulysses · 29/10/2010 16:26

I think it's quite telling about whom his loyalties lie with when the first person to visit him after he won the election was Rupert Murdoch.

There's definitely mutual benefits going on there.

Faaamily · 29/10/2010 16:28

'Far left witterings of Tim Donovan'. HOWLING WITH LAUGHTER!

Do you write for the DM?

I also agree the Beeb needs some reorganisation, but I don't believe that's Cameron's real motivation.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:31

One of the thing that pisses me off most is how much money is being spent moving half the BBC to Salford in the name of being less London centric. I agree that the BBC needs to be much more representative of the country as a whole, but programmes are suffering as a result of this. Oh and BBC sport moving to Salford the year before the Olympics in London is genius!

Chaotica · 29/10/2010 16:32

Anyone who thinks the beeb is left wing (or has a left wing bias) has got to crawling around in the unpleasant right of the tory party (or worse). Or else, the DM...

(Sorry - I too am howling with laughter at the Tim Donovan comment. Also - is Boris far left now too? [hwink]

Chaotica · 29/10/2010 16:33

Oops: add a ) at the end.

huddspur · 29/10/2010 16:34

The BBC is fairly neutrel in my opinion and from a news point of view has some of the best presenters on TV eg Jeremy Paxman,Andrew Neil etc

LadyBlaBlah · 29/10/2010 16:37

Nick Robinson - the epitomy of left wing guardianistas, indeed.

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longfingernails · 29/10/2010 16:37

No, I don't work for the Daily Mail.

I don't read the Daily Mail except online either. My paper of choice is the Times.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:38

the problem is the scandalous pay off that someone like Mark Byford gets (plus his gold plated pension of course unlike the rest of us) is so distracting, it gets people's backs up and is frankly disgusting - it's an open goal for the right wing media.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:39

well there you go longfingernails, don't believe every thing you read in the Murdoch press!

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:39

well exactly ladyblahblah

longfingernails · 29/10/2010 16:39

Nick Robinson was a shameless Blairite. Yes, I know he was a student Tory, but he was a "wet" even then, apparently.

Andrew Neil is the only obvious Tory on the Beeb (well, maybe James Landale too). The number of obvious left-wingers is massive.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 16:40

I must stop using the word "well" :o

LadyBlaBlah · 29/10/2010 17:40

Ian Hislop?

He is clearly a Tory and HIGNY influences people

I sometimes think that 'questioning' = left wing

It is true that Sky rarely scrutinise the Tories, but just because the BBC do (and do with Labour) then it somehow means they are all left wing marxists

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longfingernails · 29/10/2010 17:40

Ian Hislop is a Lib Dem supporter - he more or less admitted it during the election campaign.

complimentary · 29/10/2010 17:41

The BBC is very biased towards the Labour party and all things left, that is why Cameron and many others can't stand them!Grin.

The've £140 million in loans from the EU and should be called the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation!

They should be impartial but they are not.

complimentary · 29/10/2010 17:42

The Daily Mail is the best paper around!Grin

longfingernails · 29/10/2010 17:50

To say Sky rarely scrutinize Tories is nonsense. Jeff Randall is one of the most forensic interviewers out there - up there with Paxman, in my book. Jon Craig and Glenn O'Glaza can barely disguise their glee at anti-Tory stories. Adam Boulton is a bit of a Tory but still goes very hard at Tory ministers.

"Questioning" isn't left-wing.

Although there is bias in the interviewing, especially from Andrew Marr, Anita Anand, and Kirsty Wark, John Humphries, Stephen Nolan, Victoria Derbyshire and many others - in general, the interviews aren't too bad.

What particularly gets my goat is the "reporting" more than the interviewing. The BBC don't just report, they interpret, they spin. Often, the spin is by omission. The BBC never ever reports on EU excess, for example. Whenever American news is reported, the BBC is giddy with glee in being anti-Republican.

The vox pops always seem curiously out of kilter with opinion polls too. Yesterday, on the housing benefit report, all three of the "public" asked didn't support the changes. Look at the opinion polls, and you will see that the housing benefit cuts are perhaps the coalition's most popular policy.

HeadFairy · 29/10/2010 17:50

complimentary, I'll go back to my earlier point, how on earth do you guarantee a broadcaster is completely impartial? Force people interviewing for jobs to declare their political alliegance?

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