cuts - Wednesday's Spending Review

[mrsbaldwin]

Brace yourself ladies - these cuts are big, there will be tens of thousands of public sector redundancies and it's said (by the Fawcett Society amongst others) that they will disproportionately affect women.

Some workers will get some sort of payoff, and some will be pleased to go. Some will find new jobs.

But I reckon the overall effect (licks finger and holds it in the wind) will be to drive down women's wages, meaning that once you are made redundant from your public sector post you may find more work but it will be at a lower rate and the extra competition for jobs across the board will drive wages down across the board. This may be true for men as well but I think it will affect women - mums - more.

If you are watching the press coverage on Weds, what do you think the effects of the cuts and the job losses for women (and mums) will be?

1 in 3 pounds??? That is appalling!

You can get chavy pensioners Riven I have seen them with my own eyes

threetimespink - yes I'm sure those living where rents are £800 a week for a 2bedroom house with be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of their benefits being capped so they end up homeless.

And has it ever occurred to you that the bulk of the "handouts" come in the form of

Pensions
Working Tax Credits (the clue is in the first word - working - ie the recipients are working).
Housing benefit - again huge numbers of low income workers rely on housing benefit to be able to keep a roof over their heads.
Child Tax credit - again this is paid to low workers as well as those on benefits.

And when they make their 500,000 job cuts will you be calling the redundant workers "benefits scroungers and chavtowns" when they go and sign on......joining the 100,000's that have lost their jobs in recent times due to their employers going bust, and the carers, parents of disabled children, adults with disabilities etc?

At least. Most pensioners have contributed, whereas chavs.......

mama - so have I - we had one in the care home I worked in a few years ago, tattoos and all (though it made me vow to myself never get a tattoo as they don't look great on 70yr old wrinkled skin )

At least. Most pensioners have contributed, whereas chavs.......

Hmm well you say that but did any of the women work, I think not, my gran gave up work when the test turned positive and didn't do a days work again.

I didn't say it was affordable for everyone. I said it wasn't as expensive as people assume. Lots of people do spend much more than that each month on smoking or on a night out ( it's £36 for a single person- many young single people spend much more than that on a night out)

I dare say she was supported by her husband, without the need for tax credits.

I think the welfare does need to be looked at but people in receipt on benefits are not just scroungers 3timespink. I think the aim to raise the tax threshold to £10,000 is a good move in this regard

Riven, your daughter is profoundly disabled! No one expects her to work.

Only idiots will milk the cow to that cow's death and their own starvation

But then, blessed be the ignorance since those ignorant ones will perish blissfully

Ah yes, pink: the lady who told me that carers would not be affected then went into a rant about how it is time we were punished for state dependancy, even after being told dh worked.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

A shiny example of someone who cares for her country

The country has no money to defend itself any longer

Cutting defence and anti-terrorism spending,
grounding the aircraft and laying off pilots

Yet 8 million can stay out of work at home, eat and drink, watch coronation street and reproduce for no benefit to society

At this rate we will be trully doomed as a country in no time

Is that me?

Everyw eek I provide care it saves the country £4k in residential costs; for 2 children.

The only otehr alternative to me or the state doing it would be euthanasia.

SO i think I am helping the country, yes. I also plan to have no more kids, do everything I can to help them become taxpayers (one ASD child might) and have a plan to be abck to work woithin 4 years. In social work.

Actually, I am pretty good as an example.

Oh I see

TTP would I be right in thinking you are not, i9nnfactm, a new,pster?

Hang on! They are your children. At some point we have to accept that having children is our responsibility and just because they have serious problems someone else shouldnt be obliged to pick up the tab.

Of course parents of disabled children should receive financial help, but the parents should not think that they are doing the state a favour by caring for their own children.

I think I am battling bloody ahrd to be completely independent: that is where my pride comes from. Since diagnosis I ahve acquired a degree, a palce to study SW.... it has to be a job that covers a Nanny to be feasible, no nursery will touch ds1.

There's a lot of prride to be had in fighting for that.

When I had the boys I earned well, £20k plus. I now get £56 a week. I never chose this at all. I could hand them over, I don;t want to certainly, I might have to.

I do think that the winter fuel payments,, free bus passes and free TV licences to pensioners should have been meanstested. And withdrawn from those pensioners overseas in warm climates.

Familes with children do need some support - after all, society needs future doctors, lawyers, bin men, teachers, nurses, ie we need to invest in the future generation.

I am very at people who claim to be saving the state x quid by looking after their own CHILDREN!

That's what all us parents do.

HalloweeseG 'Hang on! They are your children. At some point we have to accept that having children is our responsibility and just because they have serious problems someone else shouldnt be obliged to pick up the tab'

Hang your head in shame...

The argument that they are saving money by caring for their children and not putting them in care could be used by any parent

and you Alpine Pony

As the parent of an autistic teenager, I do certainly accept that he is my responsibility but I also expect that he has a right to participate in society as well as he can do as an adult and for that he needs extra input as a child (specialised education). Are you suggesting that those who have not been as fortunate as others should be punished for it financially?