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Kosher cooking - follwoing the spirit or the letter?

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PrettyCandles · 15/08/2008 22:18

If you keep kosher, would you serve meat with non-dairy 'cheese', or Swedish Glace after a meat meal?

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lisalisa · 26/08/2008 22:53

PC - actually to be honest im not good at all - I'm in the first stages of getting a divorce unfrortunately.

NO the ice cream does not confuse the dcs as tehy understand the concep of pareve and also know to chekc bverything to see if is pareve or not.

How odd to be discussing ice cream and divorce together.

Just one of many odd situations which will arise Imsure over the coming months. 'M NOT

ThatBigGermanPrison · 26/08/2008 22:59

I must ask - please remember I was raised completely without religion, so am ignorant, not deliberately rude - what was the reasoning behind the Kosher laws? Why not serve meat and milk together?

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PrettyCandles · 26/08/2008 23:10

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frankie3 · 27/08/2008 10:56

This makes me very and

Gemzooks · 27/08/2008 15:27

I think nanotech etc will totally revolutionise kosher, as you will be able to produce foods that are kosher but taste completely identical to bacon for example..

It's the food equivalent of the shabbos goy, really, isn't it, or automatic timers for lights to come on on Friday night.

I guess you can take the attitude that science has given us the opportunity to keep kosher while enjoying the benefits of non kosher, or else you say 'no, I'm not going to cheat (if you decide it's cheating to use a non dairy product or shrimp that isn't really shrimp.) QUite fascinating, really. Then you get to the question, once you have a bio engineered shrimp which is totally indistinguishable from a real shrimp, what is kosher, and should it be redefined?

Gemzooks · 27/08/2008 15:29

If you take the broader meaning of kosher as being basically a reminder that we are human and therefore special, and don't just eat any old trayf, but instead have the power to discriminate, to enjoy our food and to be civilised, then I suppose the fake dairy should not be allowed, as it goes against the spirit...

ThatBigGermanPrison · 27/08/2008 16:53

What makes you sad and angry, is it my question? Sorry if I've offended.

I would still like to know though.

lulumama · 27/08/2008 16:56

i thought the sad face was re lisalisa

am also sorry to hear this

tbgp, AFAIK, it is to do with an edict to 'not seethe the kid in its mother's milk', but i cannot fully remember

sorry to be so vague

RCT · 27/08/2008 17:12

I have had chicken kiev from the kosher butcher - presumably some kind of garlic tomor inside. Was actually quite nice.

lulumama · 27/08/2008 17:20

mum used to make us those, with those mini potato latkes and peas

frankie3 · 29/08/2008 09:05

TBGP - why the name?

stripeymama · 29/08/2008 09:15

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that keeping meat and milk separate originates from a decree that a calf should never be cooked in its mother's milk.

frankie3 · 29/08/2008 17:43

Still don't understand the name.

lulumama · 29/08/2008 17:56

TNGP had another name, but has name changed to keep her anonymity, and the name TBGP is a referenbce to the origional name IIRC, for those who need to know who she is/was!

ilovemydog · 29/08/2008 18:01

isn't it also a kosher law that an animal, in order to be kosher has to chew its cud?

lulumama · 29/08/2008 18:11

yes, and have cloven hooves and you cannot eat the hindquarters.. so no leg of lamb!

and for fish, they must have fins and scales, so no shellfish allowed

ilovemydog · 29/08/2008 22:09

I love learning about kosher laws. My cousin is a convert. She is one of these people who likes to to learn rules so as to apply them (she's a lawyer) So, she wanted to know what the laws were as far as what were the requirements for an animal to be deemed kosher. Applying the chewing cud, and cloven hooves rules, she argued with the rabbi that a giraffe should be kosher, which apparently it isn't.

I couldn't believe that she was arguing about this....

Am researching kosher laws at the moment as my younger cousin keeps kosher, but is a vegetarian and will be visiting. She knows we don't keep kosher, and obviously will get a few pans that haven't had meat in them....

pudding25 · 29/08/2008 22:42

We always have had parev ice cream after meat. Some of them actually taste nice! But I see your point.

lisalisa · 01/09/2008 11:48

Actually a giraffe is kosher - its just htat it isn't known how to schecht it as its neck is very long!

hugatree · 03/09/2008 12:39

We eat a vegan diet so it easier to keep kosher living in the sticks! We eat fake Fry's (kosher) burgers with grilled scheese on top if the KLBD think it is pareve I'm not gonna complain! We have Swiss Glaze for pudding after again KLBD approved as pareve our fav is the chocolate but the new vanilla is good too!

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