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Do you really believe there is something after death?

29 replies

StrictMachine · 18/06/2008 16:50

I certainly don't.
I believe that a spirit caries on in memories and stories about them, but 'they' are nothing anymore.

Something just happened that has shook me. I am recently bereaved, maybe I'm reading too much into it, maybe I'm going crazy?

I was just watching youtube videos after a thread on here, and played a video of my grandads favourite song 'penny arcade'. I sat back and thought about him, then a trinket box fell off the shelf next to me. It's a heavy wooden box that I keep my earrings in and haven't moved for months.

Just as it happened I was saying 'I know you will look after us all''

I don't know what to think, I have never been religious, and always massively sceptical, but this just seems too odd.

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whomovedmychocolate · 18/06/2008 16:55

Personally I think after death there is only decay. But if it comforts you to believe otherwise, good for you.

StrictMachine · 18/06/2008 17:00

Me too. Death is final.

But how can you explain this?

A massive coincidental occurrence of events? Shored by me being emotional fragile?

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Martha200 · 18/06/2008 19:15

I don't know the answer but I believe my energy goes somewhere though my body ceases to be.

mumofdjandbabies · 18/06/2008 19:27

yes I really do

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 18/06/2008 19:33

I used to believe that God created the world, and that he created humans, and we basically keep screwing up. God keeps thinking we'll learn from our mistakes, and we dont. Eventually we screw up so much, he throws all the toys out the pram and goes back to the beginning, letting everything play again, seeing whether we learn from our mistakes. Explains de ja vu!

That theory aisde I do believe there is SOMETHING, but I do not know what.

It sounds odd, but I went to see a fortune teller once (somebody dropped out and I went last minute) and she told me some really odd stuff, saying that my Granddad is watching over me, and she knew some really odd things about my granddad which was far too random to guess. I dont know what there is afterwards, but I think there is something.

Tinker · 18/06/2008 19:51

No I don't. And I had similarly spooky experiences after my mum died which, if I chose to believe, I would very easily read as "a sign". As it is, I think of them as just comforting.

allgonebellyup · 19/06/2008 21:57

yes i believe we go on to something else

Heifer · 19/06/2008 22:42

Yes I believe that we go somewhere wonderful afterwards..

I HAVE to believe this as both my mum and dad have passed away and I NEED to feel that they are somewhere else and that I will join them one day (hopefully not in the near future though)..

My beliefs have definately got stronger since they passed away.

CarGirl · 19/06/2008 22:44

I believe absolutely there is something after death, that there is heaven & hell and our spirits live forever and just our bodies decay.

GooseyLoosey · 19/06/2008 22:44

No, I wish I did as I have been scared of death most of my life. However, in my own mind I am absolutely certain there is not and can see no rational basis for believing otherwise.

allgonebellyup · 20/06/2008 14:30

i think the heaven and hell thing is a little unbelievable and just doesnt really seem viable in this day and age!

i do think we probably begin our lives again, but in a different place and a different time

OrmIrian · 20/06/2008 14:33

A funeral. I think that's it. Would like there to be more but there isn't.

wakeywoo · 20/06/2008 20:19

From someone who is religious, no not in the slightest. The Bible says that when you die there is nothing more.

LazyLinePainterJane · 20/06/2008 20:34

I don't think that there is anything after death. No spirit, no ghosts no nothing.

allgonebellyup · 20/06/2008 20:37

i cant imagine nothing.

So i refuse to believe that we become nothing.

wakeywoo · 20/06/2008 20:44

Sorry hadn't finished!

I don't want to go too deep as you said you weren't religious yourself but I feel I need to explain a little (my last post was a little blunt as I pressed send by mistake).

Basically, for me personally, the Bible is something I can read to find out the truth about something. Most religious people take the Bible to be the word of God, the Bible says that God cannot lie, so I take what is written in it to be the truth.

So having said that, reading the Bible I get that man was supposed to live forever, they sinned when they weren't supposed to, death was the punishment and is thus not a natural progression of man's life course. We go back to dust and are conscious of nothing, have no memory.

Having said all of this I do believe that God remembers every single one of us, and in my belief I take into account the fact that Jesus likened death to sleep, so I don't necessarily think it's the absolute end.

Nettee · 22/06/2008 16:22

There is a book about this sort of thing - I think it is called Signals. Little things happening that seem a bit strange and linked to someone that has died. I do believe in it (or I like to anyway) - my sister died 8 years ago and things have happed since like a picture that she didn't like slipping out of a montage of photos, the doorbell ringing at DS's first birthday party when no one was there, things that remind me of her appearing when I am down or something big is happening in my life. Gloria Hunniford talks about white feathers appearing at appropriate moments - Karen said in her life time that a white feather is a message from an angel. In the signals book it talks about little hearts appearing on printer paper for no reason and I have had that happen once.

I find it comforting anyway and in fact I think it is almost harder to believe that there is nothing than that the conciousness continues in some form.

this book

OverMyDeadBody · 22/06/2008 16:31

no I don't.

Spidermama · 22/06/2008 16:34

I think we disperse and reform as something else. I don't believe we just disappear into nowhere. That would be ludicrous.

If nothing else I'd like to go on to nourish some trees and perhaps someone will come along one day in the future who shares bits that were once me and is close to who I was when alive.

OverMyDeadBody · 22/06/2008 16:37

of course we don't just disappear. All matter on earth stays constant doesn't it? The atoms and other stuff just go on to be part of something else.

girlandboy · 22/06/2008 16:38

I think that there is something more. A friend's father died recently, and just seconds before he died he smiled at the furthest corner of the room. When my friend asked him what he was smiling at, he said "it's your mum, and she's holding out her hand to me". He then passed away. Her mum had died some years before. I find this very comforting.

Greyriverside · 22/06/2008 17:18

No afterlife, but during your life you affect others and that doesn't die. I know there are people who do things a certain way because they picked it up from me. Ways they live because they knew me which would be different if they hadn't. Things they will pass on to others in their turn. Echos and ripples that never really die.

CrushWithEyeliner · 22/06/2008 17:24

i do bloody hope so

CrushWithEyeliner · 22/06/2008 17:25

GandB that has made me cry what a lovely/sad story

chippergirl · 26/06/2008 15:20

I personally think there is life after death. But I also think your dad's ashes falling off the mantelpiece is happenstance, and means nothing.

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