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Circumcision

45 replies

travelqueen2000 · 05/02/2026 17:26

Hi all, what are are the pros and cons of circumsision. are there any clinics in London that you can recommend ?

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Screamingabdabz · 05/02/2026 19:37

Not a single reason to cut a child’s body unless it’s for good medical reasons. Just teach him how to wash properly and tell your religious leader that you are parenting in the 21st century.

MTOandMe · 05/02/2026 19:38

Pro’s - none unless medically necessary.
Cons - you’d be purposefully mutilating your child and you should be ashamed.

Gall10 · 05/02/2026 19:42

bugalugs45 · 05/02/2026 18:15

There’s a report that 90- 95% of adult men report no less of sensation , interesting that you do!

They may have had it done as a child and don’t have anything to compare it to…in my mind male circumcising is child mutilation…female circumcision is grevious bodily harm.

bugalugs45 · 05/02/2026 19:44

CrouchEndTiger1 · 05/02/2026 19:35

But the baby wont know any different or know they've lost sensation.

Which religion, are you from the sanctions it?I'd have more respect for you if you said that rather than arguing bizarre statistics

Your reply still makes no sense to me 🤦‍♀️,even having reread it several times !
I’m Christian although not particularly practising anything truth told .
I literally commented about something I’d read so I don‘t care if you respect ‘my opinion’ or not, as it wasn’t even an opinion , it was simply relaying a statistic that I’d read online . I have no skin in the game , excuse the terrible pun!

bugalugs45 · 05/02/2026 19:50

Gall10 · 05/02/2026 19:42

They may have had it done as a child and don’t have anything to compare it to…in my mind male circumcising is child mutilation…female circumcision is grevious bodily harm.

Completely agree 👍

Walkden · 05/02/2026 19:52

"There’s a report that 90- 95% of adult men report no less of sensation , interesting that you do!"

Wow. Dismiss a man's lived experience and womansplain circumcision effect on sensation.

MeouwKing · 05/02/2026 19:53

Is circumsision different to circumcision?

TolkienProd · 05/02/2026 20:06

I had it done as a 25 year old for medical reasons. My quality of life and sex life improved massively afterwards.

As another poster has said it hurts like hell for the first week after and is massively uncomfortable for weeks after whilst healing.

I would never do it to a child. It’s essentially child mutilation. Adults making their own decision is one thing. Doing it to a baby is completely unnecessary and wrong

beeautifullif3 · 05/02/2026 20:07

We live in an apparently civilised country , there is no place for religious or cultural mutilation of babies in England

CrouchEndTiger1 · 05/02/2026 20:09

bugalugs45 · 05/02/2026 19:44

Your reply still makes no sense to me 🤦‍♀️,even having reread it several times !
I’m Christian although not particularly practising anything truth told .
I literally commented about something I’d read so I don‘t care if you respect ‘my opinion’ or not, as it wasn’t even an opinion , it was simply relaying a statistic that I’d read online . I have no skin in the game , excuse the terrible pun!

Post where you got the statistics from.

CelticSilver · 05/02/2026 20:10

My husband was circumcised as an adult due to medical necessity. My three beautiful baby sons? Not a chance. Why would you even consider it?

Ponderingwindow · 05/02/2026 20:15

if done as a matter of routine you are cutting off a piece of a child’s genitals exposing them to unnecessary risk and pain without their consent. there is no justification for having it done as a matter of routine. Its use should be limited to rare medical cases where less invasive treatments are insufficient.

Hoppinggreen · 05/02/2026 20:16

So there is a 10% chance of negatively affecting your sons sex life as an adult if you do this COMPLTETLY UNECSSARY thing to them as babies and some people think that this is acceptable?

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 05/02/2026 20:29

No pros. Horrific mutilation.

I doubt this is medical if it’s in a religion section?

DustlandFairytaleBeginning · 05/02/2026 20:32

I have been with two men who were circumcised and maybe ten that weren't. I found it really noticeable how much less sensation the two circumcised men had in comparison. I htink its a really sad thing to do to a boy really and for what.

cocog · 05/02/2026 22:35

I think you should not do that unless there’s a medical need and he can chose to do it or not when he’s old enough to make decisions about his own body.

thatsthewayitis · 08/02/2026 14:43

From Grok (chat gpt similar)
"Major health authorities like the World Health Organization (WHO), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have concluded that the preventive health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks in many scenarios, though they emphasize informed parental choice rather than universal recommendation.Key evidence-based benefits include:
Reduced risk of HIV acquisition in heterosexual men: Three large randomized controlled trials in Africa showed adult male circumcision reduces the risk of acquiring HIV from female partners by about 50-60%. The WHO endorses voluntary medical male circumcision as part of HIV prevention in high-prevalence settings (primarily East and Southern Africa), where it provides lifelong partial protection. The biological mechanism involves removal of the foreskin, which has a high density of target cells (e.g., Langerhans cells) vulnerable to HIV entry, and reduces micro-tears or inflammation that can facilitate infection. Your mention of STDs (including HIV/AIDS) being "carried longer under the foreskin" aligns with this: the foreskin can harbor viruses, bacteria, and inflammatory conditions more readily, increasing susceptibility and potentially transmission risk.
Lower risk of other sexually transmitted infections (STIs): Circumcision is associated with reduced acquisition of herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2, genital herpes) by about 30%, certain high-risk human papillomavirus (HPV) types (linked to penile and cervical cancers), and syphilis. It also lowers transmission of some STIs to female partners (e.g., reduced HPV leading to lower cervical cancer risk).
Decreased urinary tract infections (UTIs) in infancy: Circumcision significantly reduces the risk of UTIs in the first year of life (especially in boys), which can sometimes lead to kidney issues if recurrent or severe.
Other protections: Lower lifetime risk of penile cancer (rare but more common in uncircumcised men), balanitis/phimosis (inflammation or tight foreskin issues), and related conditions like candidiasis or poor hygiene-related problems.
Some systematic reviews and risk-benefit analyses (e.g., from researchers at the University of Sydney and others) estimate that lifetime benefits substantially exceed procedural risks—often cited as 100:1 to 200:1 or more—particularly for infant circumcision, where complication rates are very low (mostly minor and treatable, around 0.2-0.4%).Important caveats:
Benefits for HIV/STI prevention are strongest in heterosexual contexts with high disease prevalence; in low-prevalence settings like the US or Europe, the absolute risk reduction is smaller.
For men who have sex with men, evidence is mixed and weaker overall, though some studies suggest protection for the insertive partner.
Risks of the procedure (e.g., bleeding, infection) are low when done by trained professionals, especially in newborns, but exist.
The AAP's 2012 policy (which expired but remains influential) stated benefits outweigh risks but did not mandate it for all newborns, leaving it to parental decision after counseling.
The topic remains debated, with some groups (e.g., in Europe) viewing it more neutrally or skeptically for non-medical reasons.
In summary, yes—circumcision does provide medical benefits, including meaningful protection against HIV and certain other STDs by removing the foreskin environment that can harbor pathogens longer or facilitate entry/transmission. Decisions should involve discussion with a healthcare provider, weighing individual/family factors, cultural/religious considerations, and current guidelines."

And what are the benefits to women;
"
, there are documented medical benefits for women whose male sexual partners are circumcised, primarily through reduced transmission of certain sexually transmitted infections (STIs) and associated conditions. These benefits stem from evidence including randomized controlled trials (RCTs), systematic reviews, and observational studies, often conducted in heterosexual contexts (particularly in high-prevalence regions like sub-Saharan Africa, but with broader applicability).The strongest and most consistent benefits relate to human papillomavirus (HPV) and its downstream effects:

Circumcision of male partners significantly reduces women's risk of acquiring oncogenic (cancer-causing) HPV genotypes. Multiple RCTs and reviews show substantial protection against HPV infection in female partners of circumcised, HIV-negative men.
This leads to a lower risk of cervical cancer (the primary cancer caused by persistent high-risk HPV), cervical dysplasia (precancerous changes), and related conditions. Systematic reviews and meta-analyses confirm that women with circumcised partners have a reduced lifetime risk of cervical cancer, with some studies estimating reductions in the range of 40-60% in certain subgroups (e.g., partners of men with higher-risk

Other established or likely benefits for women include:Reduced risk of Trichomonas vaginalis (a common parasitic STI) — often around 40-50% lower in partners of circumcised men.
Decreased incidence of bacterial vaginosis (a vaginal microbiome imbalance that can cause discomfort and increase other STI risks) — reductions of about 40% in some trials.
Possible protection against genital ulcer disease and certain other ulcerative STIs."

Read it for yourself.

Screamingabdabz · 08/02/2026 14:50

I wonder if those statistics would change if men were more observant in the religion of scrupulously washing their cocks regularly?

thatsthewayitis · 09/02/2026 09:51

We can't even get them not to pee on the toilet seat...
I'd say for women circumcision is beneficial.

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