Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Ok then. So if not literal, why is it in acts ?

Those are my thoughts but it may be litreal, but those are my thoughts that it is symbolic of unacceptable behaviour that they don't want in the church. There is many symbolic stories in the Bible. Jesus made this clear though that it was a parable when this he did this. The Revelations itself much of this is symbolic and there is litreal scripture to. However, this is a prophecy. In the Psalms a lot of the poetry is symbolic to.

That is as clear as mud.

Why were the couple in acts struck down dead ?

Please state your case clearly. Non ambiguously.

I have to write like that as those my thoughts. I have written clearly a few times that I think it was symbolic and a action to show that this behaviour was outside of the church and not tolerated at that time. May be it was show how important the church was to Jesus and it needs to be respected. Based on what we know about forgiveness, love and that Jesus was the sacrifical atonement people lied about him and they remained upright I tend to think it was symoblic this story.

However, I also stated that it may be litreal and was clear it would a test case for the reasons I gave above for it being symbolic would apply but would need authority by Jesus. If so it does not happen today. This is what I think.

If it was me and I was confused by this I would consider talking to a minister. I tried to about this for clarity for this thread and they pointed me towards working preacher website. I myself I do not need to do this personally.

Quote :" I have written clearly a few times that I think it was symbolic and a action to show that this behaviour was outside of the church and not tolerated at that time. "

That does not work. Peter was there, and Peter was the Church.

Mat 16:18-20 " And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Assembly, and [the] gates of Hades will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on the earth will be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loose on the earth will be having been loosed in the heavens." Then He charged His disciples that they may say to no one that He is Jesus the Christ. (KJV)

Members of Christ (community/believers) make up the body of the Church and it is not Peter alone. The establishment itself is the physical church against the spiritual body of the church with many members. Christ may have started this with Peter, but there was many members in this church body. Jesus is the head of the members in the body of Christ and not Peter he was a member to. This comes from time to time in church.

Ephesians 1:22
"Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave
him to be the head over all things to the church"
Ephesians 4;
He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers"

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Peter was the head at the time. Jesus was not sat there. The Church was very small.

Why did Peter not forgive the couple ?

Peter was the head may be something like the Archbishop is the head of the Anglican church and Christ was overall the head of it still at that time. It was Christ who put Pter there in that position to lead his church on earth.
I have said I think it may be symbolic and if it was litreal it was a test case that needed authority from God in his attributes. That is what I have written on this.

I was thinking about spiritual death. The Bible mentions it many times that you can be spiritually dead opposed to physically dead. Spiritual death is not a physical death but is a death to sin.

The couple were struck down dead and buried outside.

No forgiveness.

Surely they would be dead before being buried ?

I have said most see this as litreal and I have answered about this as well. It would not have been Peter who actioned this but God in his attributes. I have said it is difficult, but it would have been a test case to show that this deception and corruption is not to be a part of the church. From the Bible itself more than this cannot be written.
Also, there is a symbolic argument to which I have posted as well, which some people support as well.
I mentioned about the spiritual death as well I know people who have been shown a death to sin and it made me think of this, but this is something else.

Romans 6
"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin".

There is an obvious answer to acts 5 of course.

That Jesus never preached forgiveness to the extent that the gospels make out.

That the forgiveness stuff was somehow symbolic.

If I apply the same logic as you are, than what I say above is totally valid.

Do you agree ?

I have felt for some time that Jesus' teaching and time on earth the central theme for this was about love and forgiveness was the message that he gave.I take the view at times that not all is documented in the Bible but the most important things may be written about. Although, if there was ministry work that needed to be documented, it would have been. Paul seemed to reallly take things further with preaching and he went to diverse places to teach them and minister to them. A photo of a reproduction is attached of Paul at .the Areopagus.

I don't know how it would relate to this couple, but if you die in the faith for it, you can at times be called a martyr. Perhaps this is why some people argue they went to Jesus after.

You don't have an answer do you ?

And you won't admit it, because if you do, you will be admitting to a major flaw in the bible.

I am not alone in thinking that Jesus teaching taught about forgiveness/reptenance and love. That is my word.

I have answered both this in a litreal and symbolic accounts of the scripture. It does not undermine my faith for me or the Bible as well Here I apply a bigger picture of walking with them and trusting their word.I have discussed this from difficult angles. I know somebody who was killed for their faith and I wrote about that before I started this thread and considered if they could be a martry to . I would have preferred if they had stayed with us this person, but it can happen.
That is why I tend to think it is symbolic because of the forgivness/sacrifical atonement but I have covered it from different viewpoints.

Moving on to something else for everyone-Lent starts on Wednesday were we go 40 days and on Wednesday is Ash Wednesday. In one sermon in the past they started banging like they was banging the tomb and it was so chilling. It will be quite moving for some people this period. I went to the service last year on and it was moving.

I posted a link yesterday about Hugo Ross who is a Christian who is also an astrophysicist. Following this theme that another member was interested in I looked it up and saw there is several modern day scientists who are listed as being Christian. I don't need to be convinced of this myself. I haven't looked through them all, but I though I would post what I found on Christian modern scientists.

"These scientists often argue that the resurrection is a historical event that is not inherently discredited by the laws of science".

Modern Scientists
Francis Collins (1950–present): Geneticist and former Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute.
John Lennox (1943–present): Cambridge mathematician and apologist who argues for the evidence of the resurrection.
Ian Hutchinson (1950–present): Professor of nuclear science and engineering at MIT.
William Phillips (1948–present): Nobel prize-winning physicist.
Sy Garte (1943–present): Biochemist.
Gregg Davidson (1962–present): Geologist.

I also saw an article on the brain and the death of the brain which will be interesting to catch up later

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/02/new-science-of-death-brain-activity-consciousness-near-death-experiencetoday.

I am not alone in thinking that Jesus teaching taught about forgiveness/repentance and love.

You're far from alone in this, @Justmerach! You're quite unusual (for the UK, at least) in the solidity of your faith and mysticism, especially without detailed examination of the texts. Again, not unique but something of a minority. Yours is kind of a 'pure' faith. In some ways it's nice to see - and simultaneously frustrating!

I worry that unquestioning faith of any sort leaves people vulnerable to abuse and exploitation. I haven't been alone in my concern for you, and it's a genuine relief to hear you practise with a group of women ministers.

The previous generation of my family, whom I've mentioned as fully committed Christians, obviously followed the doctrine of forgiveness but their Christianity had hard edges. While I never heard them talking about Ananaias & Sapphira, I'm sure they'd have accepted they deserved to be killed. They wouldn't have tried to soften this atrocity at all.

They were always saying things like "As ye sow, so shall ye reap". The church sermons of my childhood were utterly brutal, full of rules and punishments, intensely shaming of the congregation for our little 'sins'. I wasn't made to go to church and wasn't baptised, but I went through a phase of attending. My parents stopped me going to Sunday school after a fiercely colourful sermon gave me nightmares for a week. The minister was telling a packed church of children a full-on horror story. Torment, fire and brimstone all the way.

When the bible talks of the Fear of God, it means fear. It's not a euphemism for respect or awe. In human life, when a person promises they love you, yet demands unconditional obedience on pain of harsh punishment, that person is an abuser.

It's well known that clerics have taken full advantage of this to abuse and traumatise their 'flocks'. To me, that story about Peter sets an example for those clerics: the couple almost met his very significant demand, but not quite. So he had them killed. This tells church leaders they're free to demand whatever they want of Christians, and it tells Christians they'd better comply - or else.

Maybe Christianity is softening as time goes on. I'd like to think so. But this does mean the religion will have to move further away from the foundation texts. It will have to write off more and more of the bible as allegorical, not meaning what it says, and to keep re-interpreting it as not saying what was written. Then you end up with a religion based on a book it now says is untrue.

Perhaps your approach of choosing not to examine the texts too closely is one way through this. It evidently works for you.

It does mean, however, that we end up believing the same things 😄 Try not to commit crimes; be a good citizen and a good friend; appreciate what's lovely in the world; be grateful for inspiration when it comes; choose peace if you can, fight if you can't. And don't take the bible literally. I happen to think my way's more straightforward!

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It was interesting reading about your history with your faith and your family. I studied GCSE RE. I went onto study religious studies major. Now, this doesn’t mean you are an expert by far, just that you have an interest at times and can write a decent essay. You can forget what you have studied. I did a dissertation to on religious peace building for conflict resolution and I studied International Relations MA. I know enough of the Bible for me, but am always learning as such is life. I just happen to believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God and I trust my faith. I don’t take all of the Bible literally as not all the scripture is literal and some is symbolic and parables. It can be fun to if you take some literally especially in the Book of Revelations.

I have had my faith in life since a child. I think some people do not have the right perception of God. This is a new covenant and even in the Old Testament there were Israelites who God forgave for sin to like murder. God has many faces as Psalm 18 states and in my life God has me a righteous face and been a righteous father. God has many faces and can show himself as shrewd to those who are shrewd or cunning to him. I have a good relationship with them. I think a lot of sermons are changing. I attend an Anglican church as a non denominational and I have not heard a fire and brimstone sermon in there.

I get a sense here that some look into scripture a bit too much to find out how it all works, and may not get answers, they need to trust more. Some people seem like they were forced into the faith as a child and it doesn’t work that way so well. You need to carve out more of your own journey to sustain this I think. For me this happened at 16. Some may to have had a faith, but not walked with the spirit in their life.

I know there are some Christians have walked away from their faith like Hector
Avalos for his argument that The Bible was not sufficient for modern day life. It can be with the help of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spiirt to help people in their lives and support them with their faith.

Some corrections there to my post above-I meant that some people may have had a faith, but not been led with the spirit in their life as Jesus asks to be,
I also meant to write that I think that some people do not have the right perception of God. Too late writing.

I also meant that God has shown me a righteous face in life. Well, I was going to a write that God has shown me a kind face and I thought it may have been too much for some of you. It is the truth though. His kindness is reflected in (Psalm 51) in his free spirit towards me and also (Psalm 72) his care for those who encounter difficulty in life. What he asks is not a lot, that we love him and try to be obedient to him. This was a must to for Jonah who was an outsider not an Israelite who came to preach repentance.
Ephesians 1: 17

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Gather of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him”

John 16

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth (the Holy Spiirt), is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you”

“His care for those who encounter difficulties in life “

I wasn’t going to come back to this thread as it’s so annoying but the above statement!!

What about the difficulties of those children in Gaza or all the earthquakes, famines, tornadoes, wildfires etc. if he’s so amazing why it’s he helping? You’re getting help - why not them? Surely if he’s so powerful he could prevent the disasters and wars, (am not expecting a sensible response)

God has given us his Son and we need to have personal relationship with God and to follow his Son's commandments and he will send you usually to help the Holy Spirit to help guide you in your life and to give you comfort is Jesus' promise.

God is mostly an non intervenionist God and he has given us the earth and asked us to take care of it in Genesis and we have failed at times. Corruption in country's today is not the fault of God. God is no longer leading wars, but can support his believers who are going through affliction. Sometimes life is very difficult and why suffering is allowed in the world can be a part to of end times what we will see as towards the coming of the end of the world as told i Matthew 24 with signs of wars and diverse famines and this has is happening. Some people are not listening to God and neither are corrupt leaders.

We can help those who are war torn..I have donated myself....We can pray for peace still and for reconcilation with human intervention. This is about public and not personal life which God is involved in more. God is not dropping Manna from heaven these days and we need to have a community spirit to help these people and persue reconcilation and be generous towards help.

God will help people in their personal lives he tends to if they believe in him by sending them the Holy Spirit. Still people go through personal hardships.

Yes indeed. Goodwins alert time.

Whenever I hear about the miracles God does, curing a 90 year old nun of lumbago, saving a Bible in a mid west US Church levelled by a tornado, or a star football player scoring a last gasp goal.....

And when I hear Christians talking of the agonizing death Jesus had...

My thoughts go to the Nazi extermination camps. Or the Rwandan genocide, mass death by Machete. Horror beyond belief. The suffering of a cancer patient. Schools being shot up, A kid cowering under desks, hands clasped tight in prayer, as their head is about to be blown in half by an AR 15.

Yeah.

And just think about the core of Christianity. " I'm alright jack, I am going to sit by Jesus for ever, come the rapture. the rest of you will burn in hell".

Edit, forgot the link.

"The Thompson family, whose house had been torn from its foundation, returned to find their possessions gone. Yet there, untouched, was the Bible they had read together every night before bed. Miraculously, it lay open to Isaiah 41:10: “Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God.”

“When I read that verse, I fell to the ground,” said Sarah Thompson, holding back tears. “It was like God Himself had preserved it just to remind us that He is still with us.”"

Bible Survives Tornado That Destroys Entire Neighborhood in Oklahoma | Seeking Simplicity

With 40 days being marked to begin in the calendar tomorrow I thought that i would post an shortened version of a sermon on this theme and of Jesus being the Son of God and the Transfiguration of the Mount that was taken last week. This is based on (Exodus 24. 12-end). (Psalm 2) and (Matthew 17. 1-9). This was taken by an ordained doctor in Christanity with years of minstry also. This will be a time for reflection this Easter period for some people.

"Today is designed to help us to prepare for Lent. For the opportunity to have our relationship with God renewed and transformed as we discover more of Jesus and the love to which he calls us, to take refuge in him, to journey to the cross and the glory beyond resurrection and ascension.

When things seem cloudy in our lives, it can be difficult to know where to look or focus and fear may well overtake us. Lent is a time of discovery. There is so much to be discovered within today's readings.

Moses spends 40 days and 40 nights on the mountain in the reading from Exodus. Jesus will spend 40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness which followed his baptism before his earthly ministry begins fully. And Lent gives us 40 days and 40 nights to ponder and discover with Jesus.

Jesus is nearing departure from his earthly ministry. And that was after Peter declared Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God. Jesus tells Peter, "He is the rock on which he will build his church."

On the mountain of the transfiguration of the Mount standing in appearance with Elijah and Moses, Jesus is changed in appearance. He's shining and for the first time, the disciples seem utterly struck. And I think we can understand why. They are understanding at an even deeper level. Jesus really is the Son of God. And here is Elijah the forerunner of the Messiah, Elijah the prophet and Moses the lawgiver talking with Jesus encouraging Jesus.

Jesus is shining with the glory of God. Jesus is the Son of God. And Peter wants to acknowledge what's going on. Al luminous cloud arrives and a voice says-
This is my Son, the beloved. With him I am well pleased. Listen to him. Now the disciples fall down with fear. And Jesus touches them, raises them, saying, "Get up. Do not be afraid."

Jesus is the Son of God. I'm losing count of the number of levels at which that is being shown to us in this gospel reading John In our fear, in our moments of cloudy times, Jesus is with us, transforming us. Even if we can't yet make out where he is or how he's saying, "Get up and do not be afraid."

Lent gives us an opportunity to listen to Jesus a fresh to ask for our vision to
be renewed in the light of the radiance of the luminous cloud from which we
learn of the depth of love which he gives so that we may have life.

In the Transfiguration we are all caught up in as we Glimpse Christ in his
glory The transfiguration reminds us there is one voice, the voice of God speaking from the luminous cloud saying, "This is my Son, the beloved. With him I am well pleased. Listen to him."

I wonder how many clergy are using AI these days to write sermons ?

I wonder if stuff written by AI can be considered divinely inspired ? That might be worth a new thread.

I like sermons that speak about Christ being illuminated. This happened as well with Moses at Mount Sinai. It means that you have seen the presence of God. I noticed when my brother in law was praying for me in hospital in 2023 that he looked like he glowed inside and radiated as well, this reminded me of it to. I happen to have an image on my floor that looks like the cross. I was going to take a picture of it, but it doesn’t work well so well on here images in this thread. One day I had been in worship and I looked at it and it was illuminated the image and I shrieked and drew back-it reminded me of the Cross and Jesus being on there it. It was a powerful thing. It brought to me think what it would have been like there on the day.

I know some ministers really put a lot into writing their sermons. Some may use AI to check what is going on in the world and what we have available. It won’t form the basis I think of their work and some will say before they start that God had led to choose this sermon over another..

(Exodus 34:29-30)
“And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.”

I’d say loads - why do it yourself when AI can do it better.