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The Ten Commandments

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veejlee · 17/04/2023 18:20

Strange isn't it that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments in around 1300 BC , but those very same Ten Commandments rather miraculously appeared in The Egyptian Book of the Dead... 700 years EARLIER.

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RoseslnTheHospital · 17/04/2023 18:27

Um, I'm no expert, but the Ten Commandments aren't in the Egyptian book of the dead. Unsurprisingly many world religions have similar guidance on the right kind of behaviour and agree on many of the core ideas. I don't find that a surprise given that these ideas arise from human thought and imagination.

tailinthejam · 17/04/2023 18:32

Stranger things have happened.

mostlydrinkstea · 17/04/2023 18:41

When I did a project on the 10 commandments back in the dim and distinct past at theological college I remember that there are were a number of systems of rules or laws similar to to 10CC in the Ancient Near East. This is only a problem is you have a literal view of the Bible. Most Christians in the UK don't.

Keepithidden · 17/04/2023 18:49

They've all been replaced by Rule 1 anyway!

OMG12 · 19/04/2023 22:41

There’s lots of, shall we say, shared elements across the religions of North Africa and the Near East, there’s lots on this.

Anthillveggie · 20/04/2023 23:46

It's not like Christianity came up with concepts like stealing and murder are wrong.

Sausagenbacon · 23/04/2023 08:33

So? Did Moses say 'look guys, these are absolutely unique'.

Anthillveggie · 23/04/2023 12:38

no but some Christians like to act like he did

Sudeko · 23/04/2023 12:41

Not strange at all.

OMG12 · 23/04/2023 19:56

RoseslnTheHospital · 17/04/2023 18:27

Um, I'm no expert, but the Ten Commandments aren't in the Egyptian book of the dead. Unsurprisingly many world religions have similar guidance on the right kind of behaviour and agree on many of the core ideas. I don't find that a surprise given that these ideas arise from human thought and imagination.

I assume the OP is referring to the 42 negative confessions of Ma’at found in the Papyrus of Ani

Egyptian Book of the Dead - 42 Negative Confessions - House of Truth

42 Negative Confessions in the Egyptian Book of the Dead are the foundation e.g. of the 10 Commandments.

https://houseoftruth.education/en/library/sacred-writings/egyptian-book-of-the-dead-42-negative-confessions

RoseslnTheHospital · 23/04/2023 20:00

Yes I guess from a quick Google that they probably are referring to that. They aren't the 10 commandments. They are a similar list of "good behaviour". Religions arise from the minds of humans, unsurprisingly they come up with similar stuff about not being a nasty person. Cos it makes a social group harder to sustain and other reasons to do with being social creatures.

OMG12 · 23/04/2023 20:39

RoseslnTheHospital · 23/04/2023 20:00

Yes I guess from a quick Google that they probably are referring to that. They aren't the 10 commandments. They are a similar list of "good behaviour". Religions arise from the minds of humans, unsurprisingly they come up with similar stuff about not being a nasty person. Cos it makes a social group harder to sustain and other reasons to do with being social creatures.

If you look up the code of Hammurabi from Mesopotamia/Babylon you can see some of the laws in the Old Testament in their earlier form, an eye for an eye etc. Here the king was given the laws by one of the gods I think the Sun God.

I think one of the mistakes people now make is thinking of religion as being this separate thing to the rest of life in history. We might think there is a distinction between the king creating laws and the king being told the laws by a god, but there prob wasn’t.

JaneJeffer · 23/04/2023 20:51

How did Moses make tea?

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