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Need explanation bible

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Coincidenceormore · 06/03/2023 21:30

I need some advice for explanation from someone who knows / understand the bible.

I have name changed as this is completely outing.

I will also apologize in advance for my ignorance.

So I visited my grandmother's grave recently. She was buried in a grave with her daughter who had very sadly died at 20. ( my grandmother died over 30 years ago and we live elsewhere so not really seen it since I was a child.)

The grave has across the top " I know my redeemer live"
I gather this is from Job??
The thing is my little girl is called Jemima.

firstly what does it the passage mean?
Also
Have I inadvertently given my child a name linked? ( I am a little freaked due to tragic family history)

Sorry I am not religious but obviously come from a family that was. Can anyone explain to me if I have somehow picked a name linked?

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Dotcheck · 06/03/2023 21:32

A name linked to Job?

Coincidenceormore · 06/03/2023 21:33

The meaning of the passage

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Coincidenceormore · 06/03/2023 21:34

IE the daughters came after he suffered? Does the passage allude to the suffering and life after?

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Dotcheck · 06/03/2023 21:38

The daughters were born after he was tested. Jemima is a reasonable common name- I’m not sure people would widely link it to Job.
What are you worried about?

Fairislefandango · 06/03/2023 21:39

I'm no Bible expert, but I don't see how the fact that your daughter's (not uncommon) name happens to be the same as one of Job's daughters, and that your grandmother happens to have a quote fronthe book of Job on her grave, would have any significance at all. I'm not even really sure what you mean by 'a name linked'. The name is vaguely linked to a book of the bible. It's not linked to the history of your grandmother and her daughter.

GracePooleslaugh · 06/03/2023 21:39

Wasn't it just Job saying he had faith in God? "I know God exists."

I'm not sure how Jemima is connected to it?

GracePooleslaugh · 06/03/2023 21:40

Ah I didn't know his daughter was called that.

Coincidenceormore · 06/03/2023 21:43

No not really what I meant. Name certainly not unusual. I also doubt the quote on the grave is either..
I just wondered if it was linked , but obviously not.
As I said I don't know or understand the bible well. So just curious if the story's where part of the same. IE he suffered and then along came his daughter's and everything got better sort of thing?
Just would feel slighted strange if they had been. But as not no issue.

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septembersapphire7 · 06/03/2023 21:47

I think the verse is in the context after his friends accuse Job that he must have done something wrong for God to punish him so much (the book of Job states because he was such an upright man, the devil asked God whether he could test Job and was allowed to do so)- so when he states ‘I know my redeemer lives,’ he is saying I know God will be my witness and show I have done nothing wrong. his faith remained strong basically.

jemima was his oldest and beautiful daughters after his trials when he was made prosperous again - so a beautiful name without any negative connotations.

”he called the one Jemima, because her beauty was as the day”

hope that reassures you!

Coincidenceormore · 06/03/2023 21:53

Thank you.

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Vincitveritas · 06/03/2023 22:57

@Coincidenceormore

"I know that my redeemer lives, and that in the end he will stand on the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; I myself will see him with my own eyes—I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!" Job 19:25-27.

Job was expressing his complete faith and trust in God despite his unimaginable suffering.
"My redeemer" is a reference to Jesus, even though this was written a long time before He came to earth. It's a foreshadowing of things to come, in this case the final resurrection of the righteous dead (hence gravestone) and the return of Jesus as conquering King to reign in peace for one thousand years. A similar Bible passage is one used at most Christian funerals, when Jesus was talking with the sister of Lazarus, a man He brought back to life:

"Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died. But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.”
Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”
Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
“Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

Jemima was one of three beautiful daughters that Job was blessed with after his trials.
I think naming your daughter Jemima is coincidental here and even if it wasn't there's nothing to fear.

erinaceus · 07/03/2023 05:22

If you feel troubled, one option could be to speak with someone IRL, e.g. if the grave is in a church graveyard you could find the name of the Vicar of the church or one of the ministry team and arrange to speak to them on the phone, Zoom or in person. If it’s not a church graveyard, your local church might be able to suggest someone. You don’t have to become a regular churchgoer, it’s not about that. A one-off conversation is not a problem, it’s normal (usually).

Sometimes when there is a sort of spiritual wrinkle (don’t really know how to describe it sorry, sort of when something bothers you) talking to someone IRL can help or at least I found it did.

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