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Muslim - Losing my religion .Help needed from non judgmentals!

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Halzer · 07/01/2008 19:52

Where to start?
When I was in my 20's I was a firm believer in Islam. I would cover, pray etc and nothing could knock my faith.
Now Im in reverse mode. It all started after terror attacks that took place in the USA and London. I couldnt understand how people from 'my' religion could feel justified in doing such a thing. I felt that I didnt want to be associated with a religion where its holy texts could be twisted around enough to make people believe that doing those kind of evil acts where what God wanted. Then I started reading the Quran properly and things got worse for me. There seemed many inconsistancies. I also began studying hadith in the hope to revive my faith but some of the hadith that I found shocked me and I didnt agree with them at all.
Now I just feel lost. I believe in a 'God' but I dont know where to go from here.
I guess Im just babbling and I doubt anyone will have any answers.
Thanks for reading

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mehdismummy · 07/01/2008 21:30

i think everyone goes through a crisis of faith love. I dont believe either way to be honest but my dh is muslim and i respect his faith even though he does not pray. He smokes drinks etc. I think its very hard to be a muslim at the moment because there is so much prejudice against the faith because of terror attacks but these acts of terror are done by people that twir

themildmanneredjanitor · 07/01/2008 21:31

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mehdismummy · 07/01/2008 21:34

quran. Like in all faiths or anything in life you are not going to agree with everything is said but from what i have read and that is not as well as you the faith teaches respect and love. My in laws and many many muslims i have met have been kind and respectful. Lets face it you dont hear alot about teenage muslim boys killing people. Respect for family is taugh

themildmanneredjanitor · 07/01/2008 21:35

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UniversallyChallenged · 07/01/2008 21:38

Who have you spoken to about your feelings? Do you speak to your Iman? (sorry if that isnt spelt right)

mehdismummy · 07/01/2008 21:38

t i dont think you dont believe i think its just hard to be a muslim at the moment. In regards to dh i think he may be a part time one! It must be hard when the uk just encourages you not to be. He still has the respect for his family though. Were you brought up muslim or did you convert

mehdismummy · 07/01/2008 21:42

a very true and valid point but the quran can be taken in which way people want it to be but in the main muslim are kind caring family based people. Arranged marriages are changing now and the new generation of muslim are slowly changing that.

madamez · 07/01/2008 21:44

I can't offer you any detailed help as I am an atheist, but I can reassure you that it isn't actually necessary to have faith in any kind of god or higher power to live a good, worthwhile and enjoyable life. If you find it impossible to believe in gods, for whatever reason, then there is no need to make yourself unhappy by trying to force belief when it's not there.
BEst of luck whichever way it turns out for you.

MaryBS · 07/01/2008 21:52

A lot of bad things are done in the name of many religions, not just Islam.

It seems to me you are trying to do a lot of this on your own. Is there no support group you can turn to? Can you study the Quran as part of a group as opposed to on your own?

I'm a Christian and I get far more out of bible study if I am sharing my thoughts with others who might have a different view on it from me.

It also helped me to look at the historical and cultural traditions at the time the bible was written, which goes some way to explaining apparent inconsistencies in the bible - perhaps the same could be said of the Quran?

I'm sorry, I'm shamefully ignorant of Islam, but I hope what I have said helps.

Tortington · 07/01/2008 21:54

i have ultimate faith in god but my religeon and the people in it - jts histry and the things that people have done throughout history in the name of god is appaulling.

but we cant let these people who are simply unstable to afect the way we live our lives.

god hasnt changed

Trolleydolly71 · 08/01/2008 00:12

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Yummers · 08/01/2008 10:20

i agree that there comes a time for people who have been brought up in any faith to question the evil things that have been done in the name of that religion. I don't think any of the big three religions are exempt from this.

I was brought up a christian and it was around the time that i started to find out some of the historical things which had been done in the name of christianity (the crusades et all..) that i started to rebel against the whole concept of religion. It seemed to me that it was a political tool used to manipulate people into either maintaining a status quo of hypocrisy and inequality, or it was a stick to beat 'unbelievers' over the head with - an excuse to dehumanise that which is 'other'.

i suppose many of these points could be levelled at Islam too. I think in a way you should consider yourself lucky in that you have come to an awareness about the nature of your own religion and that you are now in a position to rediscover and explore that religion on your own terms and to reject anything you don't agree with. I myself am coming back to Christianity as an adult because i am reading the bible for myself and Jesus' teachings seem predominantly based on love and tolerance.

However i have stumbled upon certain examples of his teachings which dont' appeal to me and seem contrary to his core message, i suppose much in the same way that you have found things in the Koran (sp?) which don't speak to you as being necessarily correct. Don't be disheartened, is all i can say. I'm sure given enough space and time to pursue faith for yourself you will eventually find what rings true for you.

Halzer · 08/01/2008 19:16

Thankyou for the replies everyone.
I dont tend to talk about my thoughts with people as they either get very offended or think Im just losing it. LOL!
Maybe Im getting old, but now I am coming to a conclusion that God is there, but does he really mind if I bow down to pray, or go to a church to do it, or even meditate etc.
Does God love us all for just being a good person. Can we get to heaven that way without all the restrictive rituals?
sigh I guess we wont know that until we die right?
I dont get all those mediums you see on TV who 'talk to the dead' and ask questions about where they hid so-and-so's watch back in 1943 etc. Why dont they ask the question that you whole world wants to know.. 'Is there a God and which religion does He prefer'??

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OverMyDeadBody · 08/01/2008 19:30

I can really relate to how you are feeling Halzer as I went through a 'crisis of religion' about 5 years ago. Some really bad stuff happened in my life and to other people around me, and it made me question why God would let these things happen and not step in and stop the bad things happening, after all, I was tought that he was all powerful and could just will things to be and they where. Anyway, to cut a ong story short it made me re-evaluate my religious beliefs, do lots of reading, lots of searching, lots of thinking, and now I've come to the conclusing that I am a non-secular humanist, and am a much better person within myself for making this change.

(I used to spend far too much time being anxious or guilty because I'd been told God could see us everywhere and knew everything we do, it was really tough!)

gwynniestwin · 08/01/2008 20:00

Halzer, it it really tough when you go through a crisis of faith. I am a Christian and have gone through a similar thing and it can affect all aspects of your life. I have come out of it a much stronger person and much more aware of what I believe. i think questioning your faith is very important to helping you understand what it is you believe in. I really hope you find some peace soon. I believe God loves us because we are his children and as long as you try to live your life in a way that does not hurt others and you love your neighbours as yourself, God will be pleased. I think it is very important to pray to God and talk things through with him ( and this can be done at any time, in any way - be it walking to work, in a place of worship, at night in bed...whenever) but all the rituals, in my humble opinion, are there just to help us to connect with our faith, for want of a better phrase, rather than an essential part of it. Good luck and God bless x

OverMyDeadBody · 08/01/2008 20:03

Hmmm

Ummm

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