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anyone think people can be cursed or released from a curse?

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Disfordragon · 08/02/2022 20:32

NC.Brought up in a fairly strict Christian household. DM remains a devout Christian. I am increasingly sceptical. My DM has had a pretty tough life including sexual abuse, rape, controlling husband, loss of 2 husbands to natural causes, 2 relatives to suicide, a teenage relative to cancer, a child who was the victim of assault resulting in life changing injures just to mention a few events. This week we learned that BD (mid 30s) has a life limiting condition, he could have 2 years or maybe 10, who knows. Years ago someone (in the church) suggested to me that our family was cursed and now and again I think about it. Yesterday I asked my fairly agnostic husband (who didn't previously know about the comment made to me) if he thought DM was cursed....and he said "it has crossed my mind". Has anyone come across this, or is it just bad luck? I should probably add that DM is the kindest most selfless (bordering on doormat) person I know.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/02/2022 20:57

My dm was actually verbally cursed by a Romany gypsy in the early 80’s for moving her off their farm land and has had a life similar to the description of your dm’s. It’s like everything associated with her will go wrong in some way (to put it lightly) she is always extremely unlucky and has had severe ill health. We have often talked/even joked about the curse as a family!

MsMeNz · 08/02/2022 21:02

No I don't. But there is chance so some people will have lives that ahve very little go wrong and others which seem like a total disaster and every thing Inbetween. Humans for some reason need to try and come up with magic thinking reasons for things happening.

Suzi888 · 08/02/2022 21:47

No I don’t believe in curses. I believe in self fulfilling prophecy though.. to a degree.

Disfordragon · 09/02/2022 05:41

Thank you for the comments. Anyone else?

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OutlookStalking · 09/02/2022 05:52

No but trauma can have wide resching consequences. Look at Adverse Childhood Experiences (aces) for example. Even if not relevant here the research shows how trauma can affect you in so many ways.. I think its a dangerous road as if someone decides someone else is cursed it can be a passive way to accept their trauma/bad things happening to them. Life is so unfair at times .

Antares444 · 21/02/2022 20:36

I don’t believe in curses but I do believe in the power of suggestion. I read an interesting article about debunking the paranormal. They picked a group of volunteers, drove them to an isolated hotel and divided them in 2 teams. Team 1 was told that the hotel was haunted. Team 2 was told that the hotel was a popular resort and got a warm welcome. After the first night everyone from Team 1 reported paranormal activity, two of them even ran away from the hotel in the middle of the night. Nobody from Team 2 reported anything and they all rated the hotel as “awesome”. If you believe in curses and they curse you, they become real in your eyes.

Ifailed · 21/02/2022 20:40

it's absolute bollocks, and plays into people's underlying fears and anxieties, nothing more than bullying.

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot · 29/03/2022 21:15

I might do actually. My grandmother always said she was cursed and had a very difficult time with her health both physical and mental. Similarly my mum has had a rough life and my elder sister even worse. Comparatively my uncle (mums younger brother) and I have always had very good luck…I’m big into horror and folklore and have come across the ‘first born child’ trope a few times and it seems oddly fitting in my family!

ElvenMoonwings · 12/04/2022 20:54

Sadly, yes.

My own family line has a notorious curse on it since medieval times.

Powerful spiritual healers can shift curses, but if it's due to an ancestors evil deeds, the descendants do have to feel regret and shame for their ancestors actions.

BattledoreAndShuttlecock · 12/04/2022 20:57

Nope.
But if you do believe in them then feel free to put your time to good use and have a go at Vladimir Putin
michaelmhughes.medium.com/hex-putin-503d697a525c

TheYearOfSmallThings · 12/04/2022 21:13

No and no. I do believe in luck, both good and bad, and I also believe a bad start can keep going downhill. So a child who is abused may become selfless (bordering on doormat) to placate possible abusers, which of course will attract controlling and abusive men, etc. Families with controlling abusive men are more likely to have high levels of stress, depression and mental and physical illness, including substance abuse. Life expectancy will be shorter for all kinds of causes.

It is very difficult to unpick, but I truly believe anyone within that family can look at what is happening and take steps to protect themself.

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