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I need a 'fundamentalist' christian please - have question

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ahundredtimes · 02/12/2007 22:41

So up the road live a family of charming christians. And their daughters come and babysit sometimes. And they are very charming and lovely, and ds2 enjoys talking to them about God. And they enjoy talking to him and answering his questions, and they like giving dh and I books about why the bible is true etc. It is all quite fair and fine and we are charming atheists.

Last night ds2 was enjoying just such a conversation, as he was reading a book about dinosaurs. And babysitter said 'did you know that God made the dinosaur bones and left them in caves for us to find?'

and ds2 said 'Now I didn't know that' and settled down for a chat.

Fine. I said to him 'did you ask her WHY he would think to do such a thing?'

Now can anyone tell me if this is current fundamentalist thinking or has ds2 totally made it up? It's rather a fascinating idea really.

OP posts:
LadyMuck · 03/12/2007 12:08

But the point is that Jesus is legal heir to Adam, but doesn't inherit his sinful nature [whispers "due to the nature of his conception" as not sure how fragile 100x might be feeling], so the genealogies do exactly what they need to.

Peachy · 03/12/2007 12:43

TBh I don't think sin was even raised- the lecture was on the Synoptic Gospels, timescales, who wrote them, miracles etc ansd she just used it as a point to illustrate something- but its a good point, and one I shall ask about when she returns (not sure when we've got the lecture on sin tbh, missed a few this term due to SPD and Uni being up a BIG hill!)

From a Christian-myself eprspective, I find the important part for me (everyone being different) is to focus on Jesus' commandment, and then when I try to live that (failing at every attempt of course) I feel a stronger spiritual bond with God and Christ all the time. When I read the Bible I am moved, and find meaning within, but its an addition to my faith rather than a founding part of it, if that makes sense?

SueBaroo · 03/12/2007 14:26

coughs Um, the point of the genealogies was related, essentially, to the claim of Jesus to be the messiah, who was supposed to come from the line of David, and, more widely, to answering the gnostic claims that Jesus wasn't actually human.

As to finding his bones - I agree with Ladymuck that if the Romans and Jewish authorities couldn't do it (and they had every reason to want to), then I don't think 2000 years later anyone is going to have much fortune.

But if it did happen, then yes, it would demolish my faith.

SueBaroo · 03/12/2007 14:27

Oh, bloody SPD. The joys of pregnancy-related disablement.

pats crutches lovingly

SueBaroo · 03/12/2007 19:15

If a christian could pitch up and say 'No, look, Eden and Adam and Eve is a story, it's a story which illustrates man's relationship to God' then we could start talking couldn't we?

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Just noticed this 100x. I wanted to say that I could say that sentence with complete agreement. I don't think it's just a story, but it's certainly a story recorded to illustrate man's relationship with God.

yummers · 04/12/2007 20:54

Peachy -some fascinating insights.

i'm reading the NT a lot at the moment - searcing desperately to understand more about Jesus, with this strange hunger i can't explain, so your pointers about the ages of the various gospels will prove extremely useful to me. It's so strange, this sudden aching need to go to church each sunday, and read the bible practically every evening. it's a bit like falling in love, if that doesn't make me sound too crackers

and this thread is really interesting and great for helping me to articulate the many facets of christianity i'm grappling with, and struggling to believe/understand.

Elkat · 20/12/2007 22:25

I'm not a Christian, but I teach RE and have come across this line of thought in the past - so not made up!

Some creationists believe that the world was created about 10,000 years ago (based on dating the lineage through the Bible) and that Man was there from the 6th day of creation. However, if this is literally true then it causes a problem for the existence of dinosaurs, as if man was there from the very beginning then how did dinosaurs exist before man?

The common explanations to this are either that the six days refer to periods of time (and not 24 hours) or that God placed the dinosaur bones there as some form of test of faith.

I have also heard it referred to as the devil placing the bones there to distract humans from God and trying to cause disbelief.

HTH

pukkapatch · 20/12/2007 22:27

only read the op, but i first heard this argument in a terry pratchett book. not a discworld one. a different one. thought it rather interesting.

chocolatecoinmumofdj · 23/12/2007 18:19

I do believe answers in genesis may be just what youre after!

here it is hopefully

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