Is it all a lie? Is there other intentions?(spiritual/indigo related)

[Jj2431]

I hope this makes sense but basically I've spent my life feeling different. I remember being a baby and had moments confirmed by my mother. I have seen a spirit before and generally 'odd' things have happened to me a few times. I see 1111 at various times continously and never looked too far into it but knew what the supposed meaning was but something felt different recently. I felt like I realised something about myself and this was confirmed when I stumbled upon a post on a website about indigos. I felt very much like this is me. Every trait and explained a lot. I started to listen to what I had previously ignored. I joined a fairly big group on social media relating to all of this and I have been messaged by a very active member of this group offering support and guidance should I need it. We have been talking a lot and this person who isn't new to all of this and who is a healer told me he feels he knows me from somewhere (we live in different countries). He eventually told me he believes he knows my soul from a previous life and that he was guided to me. He uses a lot of loving terms but I'm not sure if this is generally how he speaks as a spiritual person but he says his connection with me is stronger than anyone he's ever spoken to. He's had dreams involving me (one matched mine almost exactly in fairness). We seem to be getting close BUT I'm new to it all and trying to have faith and trust but I'm married and I'm not sure the things said are appropriate (he thinks my marriage won't last because my husband is asleep)..He seems to know how I'm feeling without me saying anything and I've had some really strong physical vibrations since being in contact with him..basically is this guy saying things to have some kind of way with me in the future or do you think he could be genuine? I'm new to believing I could be this person and I have been knocked back into being asleep my whole life so I don't want this post to mean I'm losing faith but I'm confused and need support.

It's great that you've found something spiritual that feels good for you and seems to be helping you. But I would definitely be wary of that guy if I were you.

There are tactics that people like this can use that make it seem really convincing and like they know something deep about you. When combined with someone a bit vulnerable (perhaps like yourself) who wants to believe it, it can lead to people being exploited.

It sounds like you do believe some of what he says, and perhaps you feel you need something spiritual in your life right now, but I would advise you just step back and analyse it a bit more logically. Can he really know those things? Do you really think this is true, or is it that you really want it to be true?

Be very careful some of these people are dangerous

Thanks. Feeling quite sad but your messages and the fact I asked..I mean he's never asked me for anything and actually offers his services of Reiki for free to me but I haven't taken up the offer.

He sounds like a dodgy charlatan. Be careful.

Dodgy as all hell. Honestly never trust people who try to convince you (no matter how subtly) that only they understand you and that your friends and family can't possibly understand you because they are less enlightened or "asleep". It's cult like behaviour. People like that will appear all giving, and seem to demand nothing from you, but it won't stay that way.

I would recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on "indigos", especially the section on autism and ADD/ADHD.

I suspect your issues are down to being neurologically different to the majority of the population - bear in mind that if you are neurodiverse you are generally more susceptible to suggestion, manipulation and indeed abuse by charlatans like the one you describe in your OP.

Just a thought.

He sounds distinctly dodgy. I’ve met a few of these types and they’ve all been dodgy. This one sounds typical of the genre. They play a long game.

I mean he's never asked me for anything and actually offers his services of Reiki for free to me but I haven't taken up the offer.

You said you are in different countries, is he expecting you to come to his country for this?

We seem to be getting close BUT I'm new to it all and trying to have faith and trust

I don't want this post to mean I'm losing faith

You seem very worried about "losing faith"? Is this something he talks to you about?

I've no idea what an 'indigo' is meant to be but what you've just described is someone grooming you.

So many alarm bells ringing here.

I personally think the whole ‘Indigo’ thing is a crock of shit, but that aside, a stranger acting as some sort of healer/spiritual advisor to vulnerable people online isn’t a good person.

If you feel different, seek some proper, evidence-based help.

Honestly never trust people who try to convince you (no matter how subtly) that only they understand you and that your friends and family can't possibly understand you - This! Every time. This works well as a philosophy in all spheres of life, friendships, romances,..

Thanks everyone. No he hasn't spoken to me about losing faith at all. He does distance reiki too. I've never had reiki so I'm unsure if that's a real thing. I did wonder if he was a chancer by mentioning my husband and my husband not being able to understand me. Maybe I should walk away now then

I think you’d be better off finding a good qualified and registered counsellor regarding your relationship with your husband if that’s the issue.

Using your rational self how can some person know you over the internet? And you have no way of verifying that he is what and who he says he is.

Run away from this now. It’s a scam and they prey on your insecurities and vulnerability.

@Jj2431

Thanks everyone. No he hasn't spoken to me about losing faith at all. He does distance reiki too. I've never had reiki so I'm unsure if that's a real thing. I did wonder if he was a chancer by mentioning my husband and my husband not being able to understand me. Maybe I should walk away now then

I would honestly.

As for distance reiki, personally I'm a sceptic so figure it'll be just as effective as in person reiki

What is it you are looking for in these interactions with him? If it's a feeling of spirituality or belonging there are ways to do this which don't leave you vulnerable

You describe two completely separate things. Some experiences and perceptions that you think are different from other people's.

Then you have a belief system that has been presented to you as incorporating and explaining those symptoms.

To seek an explanation for the first thing, see your doctor. Take a list of all your symptoms, how long you've had them and how frequently you experience them, so you don't forget in the moment and so that your experience cannot be dismissed as trivial.

For the second; there will be many, many different belief systems that would offer a way of explaining your symptoms, if that's something you want. Just take your pick of religions and you'll find it if you look. All the major religions incorporate some mystical elements that discuss visions, altered perceptions etc and that probably arose as a way of explaining the feelings and behaviours of people who were neurodiverse or experiencing episodes of mental ill-health.

The sect or cult you're dealing with is just one more in a long line of sects or cults that do this sort thing. Somebody's pet project, creating their own mini-religion.

Whether your contact truly believes in this cult's vision, or is just using to prey upon and manipulate people is irrelevant. What matters are his actions and their effect on you.

What does your husband think? You've discussed the creepy bloke with him, haven't you?

Were you asked not to? To keep it 'our little secret' in classic grooming abuser parlance?

I was looking for people generally to talk to and this person set up the page. It has thousands upon thousands of members and he's friends with lots of the group members. He's often travelling to meet like minded people etc maybe I am just messed up after all and none of it is real and my relationship with my husband is good generally at this point in time.

He hasn't asked to keep it a secret no. If anything I think he wants my husband to know and my husband does know. My husband thinks he's a chancer that will either eventually ask for money or probably wants to meet me on his travels for other intentions

@Jj2431

I was looking for people generally to talk to and this person set up the page. It has thousands upon thousands of members and he's friends with lots of the group members. He's often travelling to meet like minded people etc maybe I am just messed up after all and none of it is real and my relationship with my husband is good generally at this point in time.

Don't feel bad about it, sounds like he's set up the group to give him access to vulnerable people. That's all on him, not you.

Do you have any hobbies you could do socially? Or at least join FB groups for? Maybe that would be a better way to meet people?

I did wonder if he was a chancer by mentioning my husband and my husband not being able to understand me. Maybe I should walk away now then.
Oh he's a chancer alright and the best thing you can do is walk away now. You can continue develop your interest in Indigo stuff, but do it away from this man. He is a predator.

You sound very unsure of yourself. That makes you very vulnerable to manipulation by others.

There are good reasons why accredited counsellors, psychologists and doctors are trained in dealing with vulnerable people safely and are regulated by professional bodies.

He might just get a kick out of having power over other people.

Some people just love to be the expert at something, anything. They get a huge kick out of setting themselves up as 'the guru' on something.

I think I may take some time away from social media generally for my own sake. I think I will tell him this. His reaction might say a lot as well.

My husband thinks he's a chancer that will either eventually ask for money or probably wants to meet me on his travels for other intentions

I agree with your husband. Beware that this person, whoever they are, doesn’t use this to show how your husband “doesn’t understand you” and starts alienating you from him. This is a classic grooming and manipulative abuse tactic.

They saw you coming. Sorry @Jj2431 but I think you need to find the support that you need from properly qualified and experienced sources like your GP, registered counsellors, or similar.

@Jj2431

I think I may take some time away from social media generally for my own sake. I think I will tell him this. His reaction might say a lot as well.

I personally wouldn't, I'm not sure what it would achieve? What are you hoping he'll say in response? He's not going to admit to manipulating you, chances are he'll act hurt and might make you doubt yourself or feel guilty - anything to keep the dialogue going.

Well that's that confirmed. He basically admitted he is attracted to me..intentions caught.. thanks everyone.