Spiritualist mediums... Too accurate to be fake!

[Maxine3477]

Before lock down I attended a couple of sessions at a medium centre, nowhere near when I live and where nobody knew me. I wasn't asked for my name at the centre and even if I'd told them my name I wouldn't have been researchable as I deactivated my social media before attending.
Long story short, 2 of my relatives came through and the details, names etc were far too accurate to be guessed.
How do mediums work?
I was so stunned they left me speechless. One of the relatives who came through died in a tragic accident at a young age and the medium described the accident in huge detail. I was amazed. There's no way she could have been guessing.
Anyone had similar experiences?

Cold Reading

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading

You met someone who is particularly adept at it. My partner also 'reads' people exactly like you describe, but refuses to take money for it because it's exploitative and preys on gullibility. It's genuinely astonishing how accurate they can be, but there's nothing remotely 'woo' about it.

Totally not believed on here OP. You will be told it can't be true and they were cold reading.

I seen a medium once who told me something I'd done that nobody else knew about. Not a soul. I'd never even said it out loud. The only explanation is that the dead person I did it for told them. And it was after they had died.

Of course you get the ones who are full of shit. I've seen a few.

It's funny, well, odd, the way every thread involving mediumship gets shot down.

Spiritualism is a religion. It may not be in favour nowadays, but it is a religion. Spiritualist mediums may or may not be good at what they do, and may have off days - and some are just not very good at all - but as a whole they are mostly very sincere, well-meaning, genuine people, with a desire to help and comfort others, and a strong belief.

Cold reading is something cynical people do for money, or that cynical people bring up as an 'explanation' for what a good medium can bring through.

There is no point in arguing about it - but I do find it odd that this religion and its beliefs are seen as fair game here. Do posters make a point to wander into the witch threads or the RC or whatever other religions' threads and tell people their beliefs are invalid and it's all a crock?

I can't tell you how mediumship works, but it isn't right to have a board where all faiths are apparently welcome, and yet this one isn't.

No religion is beyond criticism.

@cbt944

It's funny, well, odd, the way every thread involving mediumship gets shot down.

Spiritualism is a religion. It may not be in favour nowadays, but it is a religion. Spiritualist mediums may or may not be good at what they do, and may have off days - and some are just not very good at all - but as a whole they are mostly very sincere, well-meaning, genuine people, with a desire to help and comfort others, and a strong belief.

Cold reading is something cynical people do for money, or that cynical people bring up as an 'explanation' for what a good medium can bring through.

There is no point in arguing about it - but I do find it odd that this religion and its beliefs are seen as fair game here. Do posters make a point to wander into the witch threads or the RC or whatever other religions' threads and tell people their beliefs are invalid and it's all a crock?

I can't tell you how mediumship works, but it isn't right to have a board where all faiths are apparently welcome, and yet this one isn't.

It’s a ‘religion’ in the same sense that Scientology is a religion, and is based on hoaxes, showmanship and a desire to exploit human sadness and fear about death.

It's total bollocks. Total, utter bollocks. Yep, I would say the same to people on witch threads and/or the RC - because that's all bollocks too, new religions, old religions - none of it is true, none of it is real. I don't make a point of going on to religious threads and saying this - but this one just happened to catch my eye this evening. Some mediums may believe in what they do (many don't)- but they are deluded - it just isn't real. Same as 2 + 2 does not = 5. It just doesn't.

How nice.

Spiritualism is a religion.

What does that even mean? Anything can be deemed a religion if you get enough people to believe in it. Doesn't make it true or real.

It is an actual religion, going back to Victorian times. Most people like the one the OP encountered get paid a cup of tea and a sandwich.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist_Association_of_Great_Britain

www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/spiritualism/ataglance/glance.shtml

Scientology is a cult, by the way.

@cbt944

How nice.

Nice? How 'nice' is it when people commit atrocities in their deluded belief in some higher power? How 'nice' is it when they con people out of thousands of pounds/dollars for a cause that is entirely imaginary? How 'nice' is it when they 'other' people because they hold a slightly different delusion - when they kill, and justify it because of their particular breed of baseless belief? That's not 'nice', is it? All religions are the same - designed to manipulate and control others. Load of crap. Just be gentle to each other.

Be gentle? As you are? I don't feel handled gently.

I imagine that Sylvia Browne got paid a bit more than a cup of tea and a sandwich to tell two different kidnap victims' parents that they were dead when they were actually alive.

@cbt944

Be gentle? As you are? I don't feel handled gently.

Ask yourself why you feel I was addressing you and your feelings? Are you somehow invested in an exploitative religion? If not, then what I said has nothing to do with you. If otherwise, perhaps you should stop being complicit in the exploitation of others. Goodnight, off to bed now :) Sleep well!

I imagine that Sylvia Browne got paid a bit more than a cup of tea and a sandwich to tell two different kidnap victims' parents that they were dead when they were actually alive.

Was she a platform medium in a Spiritualist church in the UK? No.

The rage this topic engenders is both fascinating and terrifying.

Ask yourself why you feel I was addressing you and your feelings? Are you somehow invested in an exploitative religion? If not, then what I said has nothing to do with you. If otherwise, perhaps you should stop being complicit in the exploitation of others. Goodnight, off to bed now smile Sleep well!

Your rage was palpable. Go and tell the RCs, the Anglicans, the Pentecostalists, the Hindus, the Buddhists, Tibetan, Zen, and Chan, the Zoroastrians, the Quakers, and all the others not on the tip of my mind, they are murderous money-hungry irrational perpetrators of atrocities... Hang on, I remember the Crusades...

I find the beliefs and practices of different religions interesting, and know a little about the Spiritualists, but pardon me for mentioning the word religion (it's not a religion! all religions are evil!) in a board entitled Philosophy/Religion.

Sleep well, my fat arse. Glad you've milked your fangs for the day, though. Namaste, etc.

Was she a platform medium in a Spiritualist church in the UK? No

And?

@cbt944

It is an actual religion, going back to Victorian times. Most people like the one the OP encountered get paid a cup of tea and a sandwich.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist_Association_of_Great_Britain

www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/spiritualism/ataglance/glance.shtml

Scientology is a cult, by the way.

Remember the Fox sisters with their table-rapping, who were foundational to spiritualism? The ones who confessed it had all been a hoax in the late 1880s?

@cbt944, I had to giggle because, as a Christian, I basically just wrote (on another thread) what you said, but in the context of Christians defending their faith on social media. The pure rage and venom when Christians are discussed, from the very same people who are usually falling over themselves to be tolerant and open minded.

Are you sure that what you're experiencing isn't 'rage and venom', rather weariness and incredulity that so many people still believe in things that have no basis in reality, defy logic, and actively require the faithful to suspend their powers of common sense?

@cbt944

The vast majority of religions the world over fit the definition of a 'cult', including several of the most prominent.

Everybody is on their own spiritual path. The majority of people will be cynical about psychics and channellers mediums. It is always healthy to be sceptical and maintain an open mind but try and lose the cynicism.You will only ever believe if you have your own experience. If you find a good medium who tells you several things that are impossible for her to know you will be more open. You may still doubt and think it was a fluke. But the more experiences you have a more you start building up your own belief system. However, you cannot persuade anyone else to believe something they are not ready to believe. I had my own experience in 1994 and have totally changed my belief system since then. Personally I have no doubt that when you die you cross over. And that you meet your loved ones again. I am no longer afraid of dying. I do not see it as a negative experience.

You need to start listening to your inner voice and your gut instinct. This is what tells you the direction that you should be going in. This is also where you get your inspir(it)ation from and your guidance from spirit. When you get shivers down your spine that normally means that spirit is around you, usually a loved one. You need to talk to them and ask them for guidance. They will find a way of communicating with you and leading you down the right path but you have to be open to their guidance. Listen to songs on the radio. They are often used to send you a message by the other side. Be aware of the fact that people are put into your path to help you.

You might think it's a coincidence when you bump into someone you know who you haven't seen for awhile but they have actually been put into your path that day for a reason. You just have to figure out what it is. It might be for example that they tell you that they found a lump in their breast and went to get it checked out. It might be that you have also had a lump in your breast for awhile and have been meaning to get it checked out but that the conversation with this friend is what finally persuades you to go to the doctor. That is spirit trying to get you to do something.

Of course finding a good medium is the best way to communicate but you have to be aware of the con artists. Again use your gut instinct. I found the channellingerik.com website. It features a lot of good psychics mediums and channellers.

Of course most people that read what I have posted will think it's rubbish. But more and more people are coming out of the spiritual closet now and discussing these experiences. So do try to maintain an open mind. Find a good medium. Read "conversations with God" Read books by Dolores Cannon. Watch Alba Weinmann doing regression hypnosis that takes people back to their many previous lives. Look up psychics John Edward and Matt Fraser on YouTube. It may not convince you at all. Or It may just change your life.