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Annulment in catholic church

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motheroreily · 15/08/2020 17:59

I am divorced. My ex husband wants an annulment. I think this is because he wants to get remarried.
I don't know anyone that's had an annulment and don't know what to expect. I found some info online and it looked a bit personal. The quaetions you have to answer etc. Does anyone know anything about the process? I really don't want to rake over the past. I don't want to stop the annulment and am happy he's met someone new
But I don't want to have to revisit everything and why it went wrong.

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RedDiamond · 15/08/2020 18:14

On what grounds is he saying the marriage can be annulled?

Fooshufflewickbannanapants · 15/08/2020 18:23

Do you have children if so they would be deemed illegitimate. But there would seem to be three basic reasons lack of capacity lack of consent and lack of form.

RedDiamond · 15/08/2020 18:24

By the way, if he wishes to get your marriage annulled, you do not have to participate in the process at all. It is NOT compulsory. He will state his reasons why and the Catholic Church will duly consider them and if they are acceptable, they will annul your marriage which would allow him to remarry in his own faith again and have his second marriage recognised.

donquixotedelamancha · 15/08/2020 18:27

You are already divorced? How long were you married?

An annulment is saying that the marriage was never legitimate. I doubt he would get one and I can't see why you'd agree to it.

motheroreily · 15/08/2020 18:48

I'm not sure what grounds he is going to give.
I honestly don't mind at all. I don't have a faith anymore and don't mind if my child is illegitimate. I don't want to stop it.
I was just worried I'd have to go and speak to the priest and have to answer lots of questions. When I looked online I saw lots of questions about your childhood and your parents relationship and your sexual history before marriage and I don't want to talk to anyone about that Blush
I'm glad it might be straight forward though and I won't have to be interrogated.

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motheroreily · 15/08/2020 18:49

I'm not sure he'll get one but that's his issue. I just don't want to be obstructive

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Serenschintte · 15/08/2020 18:52

An annulment decree from the Catholic Church basically says the marriage never existed. This can be for a variety of reasons eg one of the parties went into the marriage with no intention of being faithful or were not able to consent to the marriage.
Maybe contact your local Catholic priest and ask to talk to him about it. You don’t have to be Catholic to do that. I hope it all works out ok for you.

RedDiamond · 15/08/2020 19:16

Your child will not be illegitimate. The Catholic Church are very clear that a marriage which AT THE TIME was perfectly legal, any children born from that marriage are legitimate even if the marriage is subsequently annulled.

Please do not worry any more. You do NOT have to do anything. It is up to him to convince the Catholic Church that he has a very good reason for the marriage to be annulled and if you do not participate, the Church makes their own minds up.

Toddlerteaplease · 16/08/2020 01:09

A priest friend of mine is a member of my diocesan marriage tribunal. I think there are quite strict rules about the grounds for an annulment. I believe they will interview you in some depth and it may get quite personal.

RemyHadley · 16/08/2020 05:37

But they’d only interview you in depth if you were the one asking for an annulment or if you were supporting the application.

If you don’t care then you have no obligation to get involved.

So if you’re contacted, you just say you don’t want to discuss any aspect of your personal life or history, but you have no objections to the suggested annulment.

Then leave it to him to deal with the church.

And btw your child would not be considered illegitimate by the church, they were the product of a marriage which was legal at the time of conception, the marriage being annulled later on would not change that.

Longdistance · 16/08/2020 05:44

If he wants to get remarried he can go to a registry office. I wouldn’t go over old ground. He’s on his own, you owe him nothing.

FinnyStory · 16/08/2020 07:31

Religion is a mystery to me, despite having some faith, the behaviour of church people astound me sometimes. So we have a man whose religion is so important to him he can't remarry because he's divorced but he wants to find a way to circumvent the rules and pretend he was never married?

Surely either these things are important to an person or they're not?

Fink · 16/08/2020 18:02

I've been through an annulment myself and help a lot of people through the process as part of my job in the church.

If you wanted to participate, it would make it a whole lot easier for your ex. I was lucky that my ex agreed to take part in it and so we were both interviewed (separately). We also provided one witness each. He chose his dad and I chose a friend. The witness, if you provide one, should be someone who has known you well both before and during the marriage.

If you chose to participate, you would go along to the diocesan offices (they can probably also do it remotely, depending on the diocese), not to your local priest. It will be a canon lawyer who asks the questions and makes a statement out of them, statistically likely to be a woman, if that makes any difference to you. Yes, the questions are very instrusive, but I actually found it quite healing to think through everything in depth and consider what had really happened in the marriage.

There's no blaming anyone in the process. The lawyer who takes your statement doesn't pass any judgement on what went wrong and why. They're just looking to see whether there's any evidence that would fulfil one or more of the grounds for an annulment, in the UK it is nearly always the argument of a 'lack of discretionary judgement'. You don't go up in front of a court or get cross-examined or anything like that, just sit in an office and talk about the relationship as a one-off.

As a worse case scenario they could give a judgement saying that the person can't remarry in a Catholic church even if the annulment is granted, either forever or subject to certain conditions (for example if they were abusive), but that's rare.

If you choose not to participate in the process, they can do it without you, but it's much harder to get the proof and it often fails or takes a long time to process (searching for extra witnesses etc.). You're under no obligation to take part. You also have the right to choose not to answer certain questions if you'd rather not. You're there voluntarily so you only have to do what you're comfortable with.

As pp said, it in now way affects the legitimacy of children. The Church no longer has a category of legitimate and illegitimate children in any case, it's not a matter of canon law. But because you (both) believed yourselves to be married at the time of the conception of any children, they would have been considered legitimate even when the Church did have those distinctions.

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