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RAMADAN

21 replies

Slink · 14/10/2004 19:44

So how many will be up at 4.30-5am this morning???? it is still dark at 7am. Well off to get my grub ready

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JanH · 14/10/2004 19:51

Slink, my DD has just started working in a care home in Blackburn - this weekend she's been swapped from an 8-6 shift to a 12-10 one, because there are 2 muslim women working there who couldn't possibly work through until 10 when they'd been fasting all day - but how on earth can they work even just until 6, when they've been fasting all day? 10 hours on an empty stomach?

Does it get any easier as Ramadan goes on?

Hulababy · 14/10/2004 19:53

One of my Young Offender students today was starting Ramadam. He just manages to get breakfast and tea in in the normal prison routine apparantly.

fuzzywuzzy · 14/10/2004 19:58

Janh, the first fast is the hardest imho, it gets easier after that, mind you this being winter, the first fast is also going to be the longest they'll be gettig shorter..
I've worked/studied full time whilst fasting, it's not a problem, the worst thing for me, is when a friend or colleague feels awkward about eating around me I don't find it a problem although must say one does tend to think about food a lot more.....

Slink · 20/10/2004 15:15

Hi sorry not been on this a while been fasting so have been out of the house alot once i drop dd at school and go to the libasry as you can't eat there and don't feel so hungry,

JanH it does get easiier, and beleive it or not you can go 10 hrs even longer if you have to without food the water is the hard part for me, that and wondering if my breath smells.

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Gingerbear · 20/10/2004 15:25

What do pregnant women do during Ramadan?

Went on holiday to Maldives once during Ramadan. We were served by muslim waiters. How they coped serving food 3 times a day I don't know! DH and I felt very guilty.

JanH · 20/10/2004 15:34

DS1 (he's 16) had a muslim friend round after school yesterday and offered him some bread - which he politely declined! He said the same as you and fuzzywuzzy, slink - it's not so bad once you start (and not so bad at this time of year either).

I think I would find no water the hardest thing.

Gingerbear · 20/10/2004 15:37

Just read the muslim mums thread - No fasting if you are pregnant.

Slink · 20/10/2004 15:41

Yep the baby needs food you can't stop eating although some women do fast a friend of mine did.

my dh is not fasting and never does he goes into the kitchen and secretly eats it doesn't bother me really as i still have to feed dd etc, and the good think is as he feels guilty i get a box of choc every night from him..........or he is trying to make me fat.

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Gingerbear · 20/10/2004 15:50

bless him slink!

Slink · 21/10/2004 19:02

yeh bless and this is the only month i do so well in gifts and chocs..Guilt a great thing ha ha

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ladymuck · 21/10/2004 19:47

We got a message about this round work last week, explaining some of the do's and don'ts. I knew about the fasting from food and water, but this also mentioned sexual abstinence, and suggesting that we refrain from certain inappropriate topics of conversation that may give rise to "increased appetites". Needless to say that I work in a predominantly male industry.

On the good side at least it was helpful to state clearly that we should aim for morning meetings (without coffee and danish pastries!), and allow muslims to leave earlier if they requested.

Slink · 21/10/2004 21:46

I think thats great when i worked our company was crap and you would always get some idiot that would think it funny to exaggarate their eating infront of you and deliberatly offer you teas and bits...oh how we are developing

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SANA · 22/10/2004 16:45

I think people who are non-muslim respond diff to Ramadan, last year I was asked at work if I was still allowed to swallow my spit?? someone else asked how I go a whole month without food?, I didnt realise till recently that many people have strange ideas about ramadan. I am currently 22wks pg & would not even consider fasting as its not required ( accepted I will have to make the fasts up at a later stage) i do know women who fast when pg and r fine anf think its up to them!! fasting does get easier as the month goes along and by the times its Eid its strange to eat during the day.

Mumma2005 · 27/03/2006 12:20

Salaamz just found this thread and am new to this site.Sana i find it intriguing that at 22 wks you chose NOT to fast. Yes, Islam allows you to have this option but as far as i am aware, only if you think your baby's life may be in danger.I was 34 wks pregnant at the start of ramadan and managed to keep them all with no probs.Each to their own.

ChaCha · 27/03/2006 12:58

Wa Salam,

It is a blessing that you were able to do so, well done, May Allah accept if from you make you of the saliheen. Unfortunately not all of us are able to keep fasts during pregnancy. I was in my third trimester during Ramadan and was unable to keep a single day!
It's easy to make judgements when we are able to do what others cannot.
Welcome to MN :)

Mumma2005 · 27/03/2006 19:16

Wasalaam, pls dont get me wrong i was in no way making a judgement abt this person as i realise preganancy affects us all in different ways.For me, if it had been ramadan at the start of my pregnancy i would not have been able to cope as i suffered the most atrocious morning sickness.I hope i have not offended anyone,what i simply meant is that it doesnt hurt to try. It was not clear from the thread whether or not the person attempted to fast or merely took advantage of her benefit. :)

girlchick · 28/03/2006 11:01

Last Ramadan I didn't fast as I was breastfeeding a 3 month old. I was up 1-2 hrly to breastfeed him overnight and also was getting up to make sehri for my DH. I was exhausted and felt I was simply unable to fast. I tried on day 1 but didn't last past midday. May Allah forgive me, Allah knows best.

Mumma2005 · 28/03/2006 12:20

girlchick, im sure you will have had plenty of rewards for breastfeeding, i wish i'd stuck at it longer, looking back i gave up too easily and regret it bigtime.

ChaCha · 28/03/2006 22:49

You probably didn't give up that easily. I do know how you feel though. I introduced top-ups 8weeks, DS was in hospital for a few days at 4wks and lost lots of his weight. Introduced supplements (top up goats milk) and he put the weight on really well al hamdullah. The all night breastfeeding had me fit for nothing in the morning not to mention DS's colic ... oh those first 6weeks are a distant memory. Al Hamdulillah! x
How old is your baby now Mumma?

Hanifah · 22/11/2006 16:28

If anyone feels ok fasting in Ramadan while pregnant fair enough,but Allah has made this religion easy for us and not a burden. I wouldnt say not fasting is taking advantage of being pregnant, I didnt fast during my pregnancy,eventhough Id just about got over morning sickness and might have been able to handle it - because I believe Allah swt in his wisdom knows whats best for us. I dont knw why scholars say women should try to fast during pregnancy,unless theres a risk to the baby,how would u know before its too late...and anyway The Prophet saws specifically said in a hadith that pregnant and breastfeeding women are EXEMPT. Using the hadith abt a man who fasted while travelling(The Prophet saws said he was a deviant! ...bcos he was exempt,Allah made it easier for him and he made it hard for himself)we can clearly see the same principle for pregnancy,if Allah has made us exempt,shouldnt we follow his command and wisdom as he knows whats best for us and our unborn children?Some people may call it taking advantage or being lazy but i disagree,i missed out on the normal joys of pregnancy and never before have i missed fasting due to not feeling well...not for my own sake but for the baby's its not fard on him to fast so why should i impose that?I think thats being selfish so I can say mashallah i fasted eventhough im pregnant,we shouldnt care what other people think of us,we should follow Allah. Having said that I do knw some sisters who after having a few easy pregnancies,decided to fast and were able to compensate with enough nutrients for the baby in the evenings, thats up to them,if they feel its ok but i dont think they have the right to tell other sisters they should fast during pregnancy. As for making up the fasts there are different opinions, as fasting is definitely not recommended whilst breastfeeding...this means that some mothers will continuously miss Ramadan from one baby to the next, alhthough the majority of scholars say a woman should make up the days...others say she should be exempt like that of the elderly and should pay to feed a fasting person each days she misses as she could not possibly make up all the Ramadans she may miss while caring for her children

Hanifah · 22/11/2006 16:30

duh i meant the normal joys of Ramadan/fasting

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