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Soul/Me?

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73kittycat73 · 13/06/2020 22:57

How much of myself is me, 'kittycat', and how much of my consciousness is my soul?
I have always been spiritual, even when I wasn't religious. I've always leaned on spirit as a coping mechanism. However, lately I have been really, really mad at spirit (God, spirit guides, etc.) and have turned my back on it a bit. The reason for this is because my life has been shit. I have read many times that your soul choses what you go through on Earth in order to learn and grow. It only just struck me that even if reincarnation is real, for me, kittycat, this is it. When I die and my soul goes back home, 'I' will be just a memory. I got so pissed off that I've been purposely given this shitty life so someone else could benefit. I have to go through it, mu soul doesn't. She skips off to heaven at the end of it. I feel cheated. I need to know how right/wrong I am? How much of my soul is me, that experiences the world? Or is she, as I suspect, in the background whilst I'm up here facing it all?
I hope this makes some kind of sense. Thank you for any help you can provide.

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noego · 14/06/2020 09:13

Don't believe everything you read
Don't believe everything that you think.
A spiritual being having a human experience observes the human experience. It is like watching a movie. But what is it that is watching the movie?

73kittycat73 · 14/06/2020 18:52

Sorry, I don't quite get it. Are you saying the soul watches the movie, and us humans are the actors? Again, that means I'm doing all the work for my soul to reap the benefits??? Confused

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noego · 14/06/2020 21:11

You have within you a higher intelligence that observes the human experience you're having.
You're not working at your human experience, it is just happening. The roles you play are part of the human experience and that is observed from the higher intelligence.
The sights, sounds, tastes, touch and smells are all part of the human experience and that is observed too. Everything is observed from this higher intelligence.
This higher intelligence is called many things. Awareness, Consciousness, The Buddha mind, Christ consciousness etc.
The identity you have created 72kittycat73 is just that, an identity, but there is something else within you that is not attached to that identity.

bathsh3ba · 16/06/2020 18:56

Can you explain what you mean by you are more religious now? What spiritual beliefs are you following?

73kittycat73 · 16/06/2020 21:21

Thank you for your reply noego Sorry I haven't replied before, I was just so mad at God and my soul. However, your reply does make sense, and I have calmed down a lot now anyway! Grin I'm glad to know my sould is along this journey with me. I feel better knowing I'm not alone. Thank you. Flowers
Hi bathsh3ba I suppose my beliefs are a bit all over the place! I believe in lives between lives and reincarnation. I also believe in 'The Universe' as a consciousness, not something concerned with morals and right and wrong, more of just a force. I also believe God, as a separate entity from the Universal Force, and God has conditions, right and wrong, power, etc. I hope that makes sense! Confused Grin

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73kittycat73 · 16/06/2020 21:21

*Soul, don't know where sould came from

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73kittycat73 · 16/06/2020 21:22

I also believe in God

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bathsh3ba · 16/06/2020 22:36

@73kittycat73 ok, so I guess you're kind of a universalist. Full disclosure, I'm Christian, so obviously I don't believe in reincarnation on Earth, but I was previously a universalist.

When I was a universalist, I don't think I saw God and the 'universe' as separate, I think I saw them as the same thing. I find it interesting you see them as separate and I wonder if they are in competition in some way in the way you see them?

Ultimately, you say you want to know if you're right in your views but I don't see how anything anyone else says is going to prove anything. You can't 'know' in the logical sense in your head. I believe you can know in your heart, and certainly I've had experiences that convinced me that the Christian view of God is right. But anyone could say that about any religion - it's your experiences and heart knowledge that matter.

You're angry because things are going wrong in your life and that's entirely normal and suffering/things going wrong is one of the hardest things for any belief system to explain.

You say you believe in God so can I suggest you try talking to Him about how you feel? If you sit quietly you may hear Him answer.

bathsh3ba · 16/06/2020 22:38

Also, I can understand why you would be angry with your view of who God is. But my view is different.

hustler2020 · 27/06/2020 13:49

wow interesting topic

im also going through a shitty time mentally and am mad a god for a number of reasons i am very spiritual i dont believe in religion but i believe in god ( whether thats an energy or higher force who knows) but recently i feel lost and don't seem to have the ability to connect to the universe . but its easy to blame is it really god or is my negative energy contributing to my thoughts??

i want to find inner peace i hope you found yours

noego · 28/06/2020 22:45

@hustler2020

Why are you trying to connect to the universe when you're already part of it?

You're saying it's me and the universe, therefore creating a dualism when in fact we're all part of it.

Just accept that fact.

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